Which is stupid. You get these weird people that think it’s their job to police everyone else. It’s the same thing that happens on these forums lol.
You only need a group on discord to do it. The entire thing shouldn’t exist.
It’s nearly impossible to show that it’s a coordinated effort. The reason streamers got hit was because you could literally watch them do it lol. How do you show its coordinated by a group of buddies on a discord channel?
Crafted ilvl 87 gear requires no rep grinds and it makes double the gold it takes to buy the mats from the AH.
I am not saying you need to do all that I am doing and getting all crafter’s mark from Korthia on every profession but the ones on the Oribos trainer is easy to get.
On the flip side, without any kind of system you let bots, spammers and other disruptive people go unchecked. Blizzard isn’t exactly going to actively monitor trade chat.
I would imagine the number of false reports vs legitimate ones is a good enough ratio that the system works in favor of legit players. If it was being mostly abused that would just be more work on the GM/CS staff for no real benefit.
But only Blizzard knows the numbers. That’s just my take on things.
I’ve sold several of these ilvl 87 sets for ridiculous amounts of money, yet I don’t understand what the purpose of buying level 50 gear is. Isn’t 50 the bottom of an entire bracket?
Cut the jerky insults.
When you just hit 50 from normal leveling (and no heirlooms), you’re iLvL is probably somewhere around 40-60 (if you’re lucky). If this is a new alt and you want to just jump straight into ToF and spam dungeons, you need an iLvL of 80 to queue. How do you get that? You buy the iLvL 87 crafted gear. There’s your answer.
Now the introduction of heirlooms that go to 60 probably had some impact on this, as I used to buy all my alts at 50 this 87 gear, now I don’t have to, the heirloom gear is plenty to queue with (well at 51 it is, I still do the maw intro as it’s basically a free level, I forget what the heirloom ilvl is at 50 (as it still considers that BFA), but it jumps massively at 51)
EDIT: heirloom gear is 58 at 50 and jumps to 98 at 51. So technically if you wanted to do ToF and queue for a dungeon while still 50, you would still have to buy the crafted 87 gear.
Makes sense (well, the heirloom scaling doesn’t but your explanation does).
I’ve been crafting wrong!
Heirlooms have always been that way. It was way worse prior to the level squish with SL, before there were massive jumps at each of the expansions level boundaries (max_level → max_level + 1) because max_level was still considered the prior expansion. So now with SL you only see this at the 50 → 51 jump, because they scale pretty much normally due to Chromie time from 1-50, and than at 51, BOOM they’re actually useful in SL.
It’s why even though you can go to SL at 48, DON’T, wait until 50, do the maw intro (with WM turned on, it’s instanced, there is no PvP) and you’ll be 51 when you make it to Oribos. And your gear is ready for SL.
boosting should never be advertised in game
I think it’s fine if done by guilds. Looks like blizzard agrees with that idea.
cool. i think it has no place in game at all.
It was in response to you, you tell me why you feel attacked by it. ringing a little true?
Progression guilds would like to have a word with you on that. It’s part of how they make bank for the next raid tier. They’ve been doing it since Vanilla. Your issue is with obnoxious communities spamming it. That’s gone now, leaving the guilds to do what they need to prepare for each tier.
The only way to really get rid of raid sales is to remove the demand for it. It’s a thing where if someone is looking to buy, someone will see that, and find a way to sell.
13 characters doing 1 emissary per day rewards 10k+ per day. That becomes 70k+ per week. That becomes 280k+ per month, which is effectively 3,360,000 gold per year, from 1 emissary per day on each character.
Add in professions, which if you’re looking to make gold you should be doing professions or else what are you doing saying you can’t make gold. Gathering professions literally always net profits, regardless of anything else.
Add in mission tables, which on average, awarding 500g+ per mission set per character that becomes another 6.5k gold per mission set for 13 characters. This times 7 becomes 45.5k gold per week from missions, passive gold, alone. This becomes 182k a month, which becomes 2,184,000 gold per year.
Again, what gold selling methods are you referring that do not exist? If you cannot make gold that is on you. Level up some characters, buy boosts to get them to 60 even like I did, and do the work to get them going.
That is not factoring in Gold reward dailies, either, nor selling battle pets, farming old raid, etc. That’s all stuff you could do 1 time per character per day. With decent geared toons, assume it takes 20 minutes to do a calling/emissary per day per character, x13 that becomes almost 5 hours, 4.3333 hours worth, or 4 hours 20 minutes.
Some characters will do stuff faster, some will not.
Literally. Easy. To. Make. Gold.
I’d tell them all literally the same thing. It has no place, in my opinion, in games at all. There are easy ways to make gold, now more than ever.
Yes, boosting helps to get you guys gold, but also doing 1 emissary per day for 13 characters does wonders, too, as does doing professions, AH flipping, farming old content, farming battle pets, selling battle pets, running satchels for tanks and healers, turning in the things when you get rep up to max, etc.
Literally more ways than this, too, to make gold. If your guild relies solely on this to make gold you’re either lazy/not actually caring for gold or you’re dead set on just this method alone. If you’re dead set on this, alone, that’s fine, but I, myself, think it has no place in videogames as it takes away from the achievement of even doing it, the prestige of having done it, etc. And it makes the game look bad when you can just buy everything that’s tough anyways, then there’s no prestige in the achievement for getting it.
Not in the amounts they need. If you’ve never been in a serious progression guild, you may not understand how things work.
Food, Runes, potions, flasks, kits, vantis runes, enchants. tomes. What else am I missing?
BoE gear when it exists, mats and repairs. And they go through A LOT of that stuff. Because it’s a serious progression guild.
I know you think it’s so easy to make all of this, but they’ve got more important crap to do and taking along one or two carries for gear runs during the week is much quicker and easier with their schedules. It’s why they’ve been doing it since Vanilla and much more prominently since BC.
Perhaps you could tell me exactly what the issue is that you have with carries by guilds?
That’s fine, it’s up there specifically because you’re doing that. You can literally take all the time right now, in down time to quite literally stockpile a ton and I mean a ton of gold up.
And I understand, but again you can prepare most of the things they need and procure it via farming, especially after you’re done progression, you can begin farming mats n other things for the next raid tier. If you’re not, that’s a failure on their end, which means that’s on them, nothing more.
It’s also why they have other guild mates, correct? People literally think it’s nothing but those 40 in the guild, tops, including benched players but your guild should consist of many more, no? Ask them or guild message of the day “If anyone has any free time, please go farm some herbs for us for raiding” – anything along those lines and most people usually don’t mind.
You literally have Covenant stuff that gives you chances on a per kill basis to get farmed up mats. If your players are not taking this when they’re at least not raiding, then that’s a failure for them, too. That’s easily saving out on a lot of gold the guild needs.
The fish one from one of the covenants procs a good bit, as does my Kyrian one for cloth and enchanting mats, too.
The herbs is nice, especially when farming Torghast to catch up in renown for diff covenants. Take advantage of that stuff, have people go farm. 1 hour a day makes a huge difference, even if it doesn’t seem like it would. That literally knocks tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of gold farming herbs and cooking mats from your guild stuff.
BoEs will always be expensive, the entire point of them is to make you pay expensively for them during progression, yeah. If you’re a serious progression guild, are you not expecting your members to be almost gold capped or gold capped? How about telling them to provide their own runes?
If you tell me they don’t have time, they do. Mission tables give out 7-10 runes per mission per character, for 5 seconds of your time per character. If you can’t manage that, again that’s on you/them.
Serious progression raiding guilds don’t farm like that. LOL
You have no idea what you’re talking about, so you should just stop.
You also didn’t answer my question, but honestly, I have no interest now, since you don’t understand how things work. Have a good night.