A trend in the forums

I love how the mentality has done a complete 180° since Vanilla.

People have gone from “it’s bad to buy gold” to “it’s ok to buy gold as long as you pay Blizzard instead of gold sellers”. The fact that people are even defending gold selling being in Classic is outrageous to me.

What’s the point of investing time in the game when Buddy McRich over there can just pay Blizzard to skip the grind and buy BiS gear?

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I just think it would be amusing to see how many people would pay hundreds of dollars just for an epic mount.

Because you enjoy playing the game?

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I don’t. I don’t want it anywhere near my Classic WoW. Who needs to farm devilsaurs or even farm gold to buy the devilsaur set when you can just sell tokens for the gold? It must not happen.

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I think we should just stop feeding the obvious troll. If he isn’t a troll he doesn’t understand classic.

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I don’t enjoy being a free to play in a game with blatant P2W system. Microtransactions weren’t in Vanilla and shouldn’t be in Classic.

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Sharding is going to be unavoidable and the only time I’m ever going to raise a serious fuss about it is if it makes it beyond the lvl 10 zones.

I can udnerstand wanting newer graphics and I don’t mind others being able to see the world as they want too, provided it doesn’t affect what I see.

Fixing the mail system is a nobrainer since people just used mods to mimic what we now have.

Instore purcahses and tokens are a massive no for me.If you want tokens, play BFA. If you want to ride a fancy mount, do it in BFA.

The first couple of things you mention I can live with, The last couple are massive turn offs.

Someone still has to farm that gold and farm the devilsaur leather. Once again tokens do not make any of those things just appear out of thin air.

I don’t really care about tokens either way, it’s just amusing when people don’t understand how they work.

I understand how they work. I don’t think you understand the point I am making. It’s unfair. The guy who SOLD THE TOKEN gets to buy items because he spent real money to sell a token. He doesn’t have to go farm gold. He doesn’t have to farm devilsaurs. He sits back and has Pre-Bis in an hour for nothing. It has ingame repercussions and I think you know that. We aren’t talking about how tokens work. It’s the repercussions. The person who sells the token just bought gold (yes form another player) that the token seller did nothing to get. Now they go buy pre bis items. The did nothing to earn them and have an instant advantage over other players. You either refuse to understand or are doing this on purpose.

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I’m saying I feel more sorry for people who will pay hundreds of dollars for blue items than angry they have them. Gold is by no means P2W in WoW as such I don’t hate the idea of tokens whether I buy them or not.

You’re going out of your way to ignore what I am saying by saying something completely different. When I respond to your new statement you go back to the original acting like I have no idea what I am talking about. You are a troll.

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Its P2W when you pay real world money to get said gold.

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Buying

  • 100% mount
  • pre-raid BiS (devilsaur set)
  • perma-BiS (edgemaster’s, lionheart)
  • Consumeables/flasks

with IRL money is not P2W? You’re literally paying to skip portions of the game (grinding gold) and get ahead of other players.

Stop trolling and misconstruing other posters’ points.

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I’m saying I don’t think the items you can buy outside of maybe epic mounts are that big of a deal. And even then by the time they are reasonably affordable they won’t matter.

You clearly don’t understand the advantage pre bis gives you when getting raid spots. Even an epic mount is an advantage when farming for herbs/mining/ tracking devilsaurs. Being able to buy anything at all because you spent real world money on anything in the game is an advantage. If you don’t realize how big of a deal or just don’t care maybe you shouldn’t voice that opinion. You clearly don’t have the experience to understand what your statement implies.

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You clearly don’t understand that the gold you get for tokens is determined by the gold that exists in WoW. If someone is getting 5g for 20$ and they want to pay real dollars for a 1000G mount more power to them, they want to pay for blue armor that is only marginally better than dungeon drops and worse than raid drops more power to them.

By the time someone can drop 20$ for an epic mount or a set of devilsaur armor progression will be so screwed up it won’t matter anyways.

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Dude i’m done with you. I understand how tokens work. I sold a ton of them in retail.

And would you have bought them and sold them if they weren’t selling for as much as they are?

Or more to the point how many would you have bought and sold if they were selling for what they sold for when they first came out, which was what ~20k gold per token?

You guys are arguing with Ziryus, he literally has no real points for tokens besides pure conjecture. He has no reason for anything he posts. Its like trying to argue with a Flat Earther, it just doesnt compute. Two words “Chinese farmers.” Tokens arent regulated by the gold available in the game, its regulated by Blizzard to combat gold selling prices. Its like somehow Chinese farmers vanished from your equation. lol

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I did when they first came out. If you understand how hard gold is to come by in vanilla then you understand how op being able to trade a token for it is.

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