What about adding additional parts? Four arms, a dozen eyes, a pair of hearts and feathers to boot.
I have you blocked, but I genuine love your sass sometimes. That’s the one thing not lost in translation.
You make a good point. This is a slippery slope into Eugenics and Transhumanism.
Don’t confuse stupidity with insolence. I am stupid.
Transhumanism - bionic limbs, cyberpunk and cyborgs? I don’t see anything bad, but I won’t apply it to myself. Oh yeah, mind control through microcircuits in the brain.
Eugenics is a fun idea if everyone involved agrees. But experiments are obligatory, for example, to expose the results of selection to all possible diseases and social defects in order to find out whether this approach justifies itself or whether it is cheaper to invest in psychologists, doctors and gravical compensators. Most likely it won’t. Besides, there will always be automatons, and they are better than any selection.
When it comes to abortion, I metaphorically split the baby.
I agree with some Anti Abortionists who say :
I think that is true enough. Sure, call the zygote/embryo a “life”. It is technically life. I can agree with that.
If a woman is 2 months pregnant, and she was aiming to carry it to term, and then she is murdered - the murderer should be charged with 2 counts - because he took the choice away from the mother.
On the other hand, for me, the argument rests on the mother’s choice and viability of life outside the womb.
As far as I am concerned, if it inside the womb, and it requires the mother to exist, she should have the ultimate say.
I don’t agree on your value system. It is certainly not universally agreed upon.
There are some pretty and ancient trees that I would wish to save… and there is Human filth on death row that I wish would get what’s coming to them.
Like most things, I fall into a center left position. Which is generally along the lines of Roe v Wade:
Abortion on demand in the first trimester. If she wants it, she should have access.
But in the second and third trimester, there should be some limits, yet ALWAYS an exception for the life of the mother.
Indeed.
Without however the Fundamentalist church driving politics with the GOP Southern strategy, the antichoice movement would be going nowhere.
I don’t have a problem with someone having an anti-choice stance. What I have an issue with is them making law for those who don’t share their beliefs. I’m singling them out because they have an outsize amount of weight on the political process.
I have spoken and met to many of these people, some of which are in my own family. I used to be a dyed in the wool Christian myself who attended Baptist, Methodist, and Prepertyrian. Sunday Schools. I’ve even been on a radio show contest on Bible knowledge.
Actually not neccessarily… another front that anti-choice people have been pushing is backing suits by convicted rapists who are seeking to have abortions of the child they forced on a woman prevented.
Women who have undergone miscarriages have also been imprisoned on the charge of child endangerment. “for not being careful enough to protect their unborn child.”
Comparisons with organisms that have the same level of neurological development. Self-conciousness is more than just reaction to stimuli… earthworms exhibit that.
It may be a stereotype but it’s an accurate one. Anti-choic politicians are the first in line when it comes to eliminating child support parts of the social safety net.
Women who have undergone miscarriages have also been imprisoned on the charge of child endangerment. “for not being careful enough to protect their unborn child.”
It sounds… strange. Any reason for the miscarriage (stress in the background of an accident) becomes a reason for jail or is the prosecutor trying to prove that the miscarriage was intentional?
Well with charges of child endangerment, there doesn’t have to be intent.
I knew a woman who was a bit of a party girl. She was married but she liked to “partake” on drugs, along with her husband. She was actually pregnant for two months before she even knew.
She stopped drinking and doing drugs when she found out - but she didn’t even know she was pregnant for a couple months. She always had abnormal menstrual cycles all her life.
Luckily, the child was born healthy and is now thriving. But there was a lot of worry about what might happen during the pregnancy.
If it was deformed or not viable, some jurisdictions would charge her for child endangerment before she even knew she was pregnant.
Why reply to me and not actually reply to me? Like you said things that I never actually said.
That is a stereotype and you know it. How many pro-life people have you actually met or spoken to about this?
Well the members of the GOP are certainly living up to the stereotype then.
I am financially not in a position to look after a child.
Ah so you can empathize with not wanting to but being forced to take care of an unwanted child. Why should women who accidentally get pregnant be forced to carry and care for an unwanted child then?
I feel like you are so close to the point but still missing it. Not having the financial security to support a child is a perfectly valid reason to get an abortion.
That’s why I’m pro-choice. I’m not going to force you or anyone to have a child they do not want or are not ready to have.
It seems like such a simple concept really.
About Blizzard problems:
In February 2018, the EEOC received an anonymous complaint from a Human Resources employee of Defendants Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. alleging, among other things, that a hostile work environment based on sex existed in Defendants’ workplaces. Declaration of Rosa Viramontes, ¶ 2. On September 26, 2018, one of the EEOC’s Commissioners, Chai R. Feldblum, filed a Commissioner’s Charge, as authorized by 29 C.F.R. § 1601.11, which opened an investigation into the allegations raised in the anonymous complaint. Id. at ¶ 3.In October 2018, about one month after the Commission filed its Charge, DFEH filed a Director’s Complaint against Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. and later added entities Activision Blizzard, Inc. and Activision Publishing, Inc. Id. at ¶ 4.
EEOC appears to be the first regulator to receive an accusation and charge it through the internal process.
This SPECIFICALLY started about Blizzard, from Blizzard’s own HR. The rest of ATVI was added later.
I thought the detail that this is all starting at Blizzard’s HR was something people should really be conscious of.
EEOC does actively declare their position as the regulator for the Federal law in question, and that means they get deference. Which they are and do.
The right party to argue about that (if there are facts for it) isn’t going to; it’s ATVI.
I assume EEOC is not deceptively redacting about the two attorneys. Thus they were involved in EEOC’s work before going to DFEH; and OLC was correctly warning them to be careful. For the OLC letters see pages 15 and 18 by the top blue numbering:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60492502/17/2/us-equal-employment-opportunity-commission-v-activision-blizzard-inc/
The OGE memo effectively backing up the OLC letters is page 21 by the top blue numbering. (It’s a generic one that goes with letters like the above normally.)
For detail:
- OLC = Office of Legal Counsel. An office in pretty much every Federal Department that handles the internal legal issues and issues opinions on the legal powers, and questions, of the Department.
- OGE = Office of Government Ethics. An outside Department of the Federal Government that oversees ethics Federal system-wide (with certain exceptions not relevant here).
- OGC = Office of General Counsel. The overarching legal office for a Federal Department, effectively the top lawyers for the Department.
I also want to note that EEOC did inform DFEH about what was happening but that was not reciprocated; and the EEOC claim is that DFEH abrogated their agreement:
13.f. DFEH specifically agreed it “is not conducting the investigation of the harassment allegations in this matter.” (Email from Wipper dated June 4, 2020);
g. In reliance on the Interagency Agreement, EEOC narrowed the scope of its investigation to-harassment and related retaliation and proceeded to complete its investigation pursuant to the Interagency Agreement.
Pursuant to the Interagency Agreement, on June 23, 2021, I provided DFEH with a copy of the EEOC’s Letter of Determination, and I informed DFEH that the EEOC and Defendants were currently engaging in conciliation. I invited Ms. Wipper to coordinate conciliation efforts with us. I was informed by the Director of State, Local, and Tribal Programs in Washington D.C. that DFEH, through its counsel, would reach out to EEOC’s counsel to coordinate next steps since we were in conciliation. A true and correct copy of the June 23, 2021 letter is attached hereto as Exhibit F.
DFEH did not respond to my June 23, 2021 letter or otherwise reach out to EEOC to coordinate resolution efforts prior to filing its lawsuit.
In late July of 2021, the EEOC learned that DFEH had filed a state court complaint on July 20, 2021, including, among other things, claims of sexual harassment.
EEOC never received notice of DFEH’s findings or information regarding DFEH’s mediation efforts on July 1, 2, and 15, 2021 respectively prior to DFEH filing its lawsuit. To date, DFEH never provided a copy of its findings to EEOC.
An outside read could reasonably be that DFEH was trying to game the system powers for an advantage. What a mess.
And the EEOC didn’t investigate as broadly as they could have because of DFEH… Just,… great.
Oi vey.
I am glad the Feds have deference. Yet, I wonder…
If Trump was able to steal the office, would the Feds have even bothered?
I seriously think the only reason there is any weight against Blizz is because a Democrat was elected to take the reigns of the Fed.
I hate how politics seeps into everything… but I doubt a Republican Administration would support Workers against a Corporation.
It’s true that there are more valuable endangered species, and people on death row who brought that on themselves. My analogy was a rough one for the intrinsic value of lives based on what type of lives they are.
The issue of abortion is arguing against putting the unborn on death row - an aborted baby is just as dead as a serial killer subjected to the electric chair.
I understand about the mother’s life, but what parent worth the name wouldn’t sacrifice their lives to save their children’s lives?
Do you know the most common reasons women have abortions? It’s not because, for example, they were impregnated by force - those instances are thankfully rare.
Women in that scenario chose to have sex; they should have thought about whether they can handle a child before doing that.
Those women who can’t handle having a child should not have abortions, they shouldn’t have had sex. Not wanting a child is no excuse for abortion - that’s what adoption is for, and they don’t have to die for that.
That’s part of why I’m not pro-abortion. I’m not going to force a child to die for their mothers’ selfish gratification.
It seems like such a simple concept really.
I understand about the mother’s life, but what parent worth the name wouldn’t sacrifice their lives to save their children’s lives?
Answer that yourself.
Or I can help…
By your logic, the person who would be a parent did not want to be a parent. And if they go through with the Abortion, they won’t be a parent.
So I can agree on that much. And that is why I want people to have the right to choose.
We agree - a person who wants an abortion has put aside the idea of being a parent.
That is simply how it is. And it is for the best.
The only thing worse than letting someone abort a child is forcing them to raise a child they never wanted. I don’t see any logic in forcing women to birth children they do not want - and then expecting them to be a model parent for a kid they didn’t want?
I don’t see it.
Seemingly non sequitur but still odd: the infamous Pelagos thread from last year (re: being trans in death only within WoW, this was pre-Chromie confirmation) was locked nine hours ago after months of inactivity and thrown to the story forum
very odd
iirc some troll necroed the thread saying that Blizzard “gone work, therefore broke” or something stupid along those lines.
You are making too big a deal over a clump of cells. You are treating the potential of life as more important that the living person carrying these cells.
This is objectification. Women are not just walking wombs. They are already treating miscarriage as murder. If this goes any further, then they will probably suggest mensuration is also murder because women only have a certain amount of eggs. When does the line get drawn?
It’s frustrating that men think they have a say on what women can and can’t do with their bodies.
This is some Freudian level female envy. I’m sorry you cannot carry a child or control reproduction, and you feel powerless over it. But you are not listening to women, you are showing zero empathy all you want is to control.
Anti-abortion is a misogynistic ideology. The policing of women’s compliance to patriarchal gender expectations is reaching a level of terrorism.
As a guy myself I do find myself embarrassed by the actions of other men. It’s just….sad a clump of cells is more important than the life of the women forced to carry these often unwanted babies to term
Yeah someone necro’d it, just to Troll. There was abit of “renewed” discussion… but it looks like they deleted the Necro Post, and all the Posts after the Necro.
Eh. When I checked the forums and saw it was locked, I wasnt shedding tears for it.
But that’s what happened. Some Troll necro’d it to Troll. And get locked.
The most surprising thing to me is that there was Forum Mod action in the Story Forum on a Saturday Night.
@Micâh , okay, let’s do it differently. At what point does a person’s life become cheaper than a possible life? A hundred-year-old woman in labor or a child (like giving birth at eighty)? A person in a ten-year-old coma or a child (were there any such cases?)?
No, there is clearly a defect here. A centenarian woman in labor can be asked whom to save if something goes wrong. Who is in charge of the body in a coma?
Mda.
But you are not listening to women, you are showing zero empathy all you want is to control.
Is the “crazy deal” okay? “Since I cannot bear, educate and take away a child, then I determine whether he will live.”
I’m talking about the stereotype (reality?) That only women are usually involved in upbringing (teachers at school, kindergarten teachers), that in the event of a divorce, the child always goes to the mother … M … adoption by a single man is seen as future debauchery ( not sure).
Mda, I stupid.
Hmm. What is there in the sciences related to stem cells and artificial insemination? There are no predictions that “soon” TM, a woman will be able to become pregnant from herself, if you take a cell, roll it back to the state of “stem”, grow a male-egg-cell out of it, and then they definitely know how. Hmm.
What then goes to the males, hee-hee-hee …