A really really long awkward drawn out sad goodbye to the twink community

Ah but you only have one bracket at 120, we have two at lower levels. Lets fix that shall we? Separate the geared and not geared.

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Not really all I do is bgs and every single person I have seen sub 100k is worthless I would rather be a man down then have them on my team

Esp now that all the mythic pvers are farming bis essences as well

Hey man, they’re great fodder, no?

Yeah, they don’t have to worry about normally geared 110s, but us twinks are comin to get you 120s!

Why would they do that? Once again you are trying to avoid the correct action they made by separating people from XP on and XP off, and make it the same as the what gear people have. These are not the same, so your argument is completely flawed.

I find it endlessly funny how pre-separation there was a constant slippery slope argument made about what would be next to separate.

Then, after separation, the only people calling for more separation have been twinks.

I’ll be honest, I couldn’t comprehend part of that sentence, but either way… just add stat templates back with a little more tuning and problem solved. Twinks back in exp on bgs, max levels have actual fights.

Implying everyone is happy with the healer imbalances post 8.1.5

I take it you haven’t read BG chat since the separation :wink: Funny how there is even less of an even playing field after the twinks left.

Running with a 5 man healer team has netted me a higher winrate than any of my twinks so far. I’d be sitting in queues for an hour-2 hours if I did that prior to 8.1.5

I’m just saying that with the twink changes it only makes sense to do more separation with the same logic. Same treatment for everyone, y’know? I’d rather them just put twinks back into exp on with maybe some debuff to help balance us out or something, but torturing max levels by separating them would help as well, because then people would see how terrible of an idea it is to separate players

Straw man fallacy… You have to keep redirecting the argument. Once again flawed logic.

Alright, where do you want the argument to go? Lets go there. I guess I missed all of the cues

Uh oh, we got a fallacy man in here!

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This isn’t only about ‘gear’. This is about people who have decided to turn off progression, being separated from the group of people that want to progress. If you no longer want to be on the progression path and want to specifically focus on where you are at, you should be matched up against people in that same mindset. Blizzard obviously agrees, and even stated when templates were removed, separation was supposed to have occured. If you’d like to turn XP on, I’d be happy to battle with you, regardless of what ‘gear’ you have.

You are combining posts that were made for different people and putting them together… Look at your fallacy.

Following this “logic” then why were they allowed in with templates?

The goal of our playstyle was the same back then as it as now.

But yet twinks were allowed in BGs. So clearly that is not the reason for separation.

Separation was because twinks grew in power, not due to a change in their mindset. That is Blizzard fault, not ours :wink:

That would be implying I was attempting to make an argument through those posts, when in reality I was just laughing at you trying to act smart like 99% of forum “debaters”

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too bad there is no option to stop progression at 120. its weeks or pve or being worthless in bgs until you are geared

The issues still stand at max level. With this logic, people who do rated battlegrounds and people who don’t should be separated. The rated battleground players are the twinks of the random battlegrounds. I’m not doing a great job at explaining it, but I hope you understand. The people who do random battlegrounds are the levelers of the max level world, while the rated battleground and arena players are the twinks. Why not separate these people then?

Is a claim… which in turn is what? Not a fact.

I am in the same boat, laughing at your attempts once again turn the tides to the current argument. Personal attacks, do you even know which one that falls under?

People in both rated and randoms are on the same progression path. Both XP off.

But there are multiple paths at max level, no? Much like how there are multiple paths at low level.
Edit: I didn’t see that you said they were on the same path. Are they exactly on the same path? If so, they’re at vastly different places on this path