You know what happened though, they realize that life doesnt just give you what you want 100% and stomping your feet doesnt get you anywhere most of the time. They learned to handle the situation with their mind and not hysterical outbreaks … people tend to listen more when you do.
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Yes! You’ve figured it out. What’s confusing about this?
I don’t believe we have, unless you want to tell me the name of your alt.
Anecdotes don’t trump anecdotes. Try again.
I believe it’s currently called Shadowlands
What I find confusing is you don’t seem to know I am making fun of the situation.
I honestly find it absurd that people could be considered a system like that but if me and my ideas are so repulsive that I bother you to the core well here I am baby. I am the solo player of the dreams ruining your game.
I stopped trying to take these convo’s seriously a long time ago because me being who I am in this game = my voice doesn’t matter and I should leave the game or I am a sin on the community. So well I just embrace it at this point.
If you want to be hostile towards people who are casual don’t expect me to just fall in line.
If you honestly, truly believe that the only difference between Classic servers and Shadowlands is the RDF then you’re just too stupid to talk to.
If this was an overly clever way of saying “gObAcK tO rEtAiL!” then I was right, you are nothing more than a troll and can be safely ignored for eternity.
If this was a pathetic attempt at a slippery slope argument - you fail. Leaving RDF in Wrath Classic doesn’t mean they have to add LFR to Wrath OR Classiclysm. It doesn’t mean they have to release a classic version of Cata. They can just turn the lights off and send everyone home after we kill the Lich King (they won’t but the only thing preventing them is the desire for profitability, not some inevitable pull of gravity.
You’re creating a strawman here. Sure there are people throwing tantrums on both sides of the issue, but there is also reasoned logical discussion going on. Trying to paint one side and toddlers throwing tantrums and the other as reasoned logical patient parents is both a logical fallacy and intellectually dishonest.
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Why do you keep implying you’ve got me bothered? I think you’re playing the wrong game, that’s it.
Your relationships made with other players in the MMORPG (massively multiplayer online role playing game) are meant to aid you in engaging with systems and mechanics. It’s what those systems and mechanics were originally built around.
The problem is that retail has pushed the Overton window so far into the antisocial solo play that you people don’t understand what the game was originally built for.
Being a part of a world includes integrating into that world’s society. That’s why it’s called World of Warcraft instead of Instances of Warcraft.
Quote my hostility please.
100% agree with that.
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RDF is absolutely the first tumble down the antisocial slippery slope that leads to retail. Sorry you don’t understand that.
But I don’t want to play retail. Or Cataclysm or MoP. I want to play Wrath. I don’t see why that is so hard to understand.
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We also want to play Wrath, and will play the hell out of it. But, I also hope they continue to release content for the Classic WoW journey post WOTLK. I hope the journey don’t simply end there. Quick reminder that TBC lasted for only 1 year, that is not long. I’de be sad if the journey ends in 1 year. Opening the full blown RDF door is a dangerous one for the long term health of the game… at least from my point of view.
Oh yesh I guess I have been living my life wrong then. I should drop everything and shake every person’s hand on my street right now.
You’re gonna get to, just with one system that was introduced in the later phases absent. For good reason.
Lol hyperbole doesn’t help your case here bud.
You think making your own groups is the same as interacting with every single player?
Nope… but lets say you decide to play a basketball game with these strangers, starting by introducing yourself and agreeing on the rules of the game might be a good idea 
It’s not about being extreme… of course you wont interact with EVERYONE… but expecting to NOT interact with others in an MMORPG is kind of… weird
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Did you not read the part where I said I don’t take convo’s seriously with people I know are going to tell me to quit if I did take them seriously?
If you advice is seriously to just tell me to get a single player game becuase I have limited time I could care less about anything you have to say.
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I get that, which is why I have repeatedly voiced my approval for a watered down version of it among other things. While I am curious to see what Blizzard decides to do once WrathClassic has run its course, I am perfectly ready to cancel all subs at that point if I’m not thrilled with their ideas. Telling me that RDF leads to LFR, etc. means nothing when I have no intention of playing past Wrath.
Blizzard can release Wrath SoM and remove the dungeon finder then. They can release twelve different versions of Wrath with different rulesets simultaneously. They can make as many decisions (good or ill) as they wish, nothing is forcing their hand. So please don’t waste your time typing out some hogwash slippery slope argument.
Retail came to be because people made decisions to make the game that way multiple times over multiple years and expansions. Nothing directly forced them to take an additional step in that direction.
The game will be lesser for it.
And you trust the same Blizzard to re-design Classic?
I think that this is part of the gap between the pro and anti RDF. Through my several interactions on the forums (not scientific at all), it seems like many pro-RDF people are saying : Wrath is the end of the journey, I do not intend to play after that.
For me, and other anti-RDF people, Wrath is part of the journey and we’re hoping it’s not the end. We’re hoping that in that step of the journey, we won’t tarnish the experience for the steps that will follow. I made another thread about how I hope they can release a Cataclysm that is drastically different, trying to preserve the Classic / old-school approach to WoW.
Link to the post (it’s very long… sorry in advance)
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