A possible compromise to RDF from an anti-RDF perspective

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

@Dumbcake-westfall

They don’t care. Truest thing you can possibly post. They monetized our time and I have no doubt they have an algorithm that shows max profits via timegating.

Sad but true. It’s clearly not a design decision to remove RDF. There’s some other metric guiding their decision.

[Confidence-heartseeker]

@Zaalg-ashkandi

Sad but true. It’s clearly not a design decision to remove RDF. There’s some other metric guiding their decision

Conspiracy theorist. You better have evidence to make this claim

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Confidence-heartseeker

It actually kind of undermined your point and now the burden of proof is on you, because mine was one of the top results. Argue with Bloomsday if you want, but let this ridiculous absolut

Yup, and they still call ME the troll! Is it any wonder why pro-RDF has largely been unable to convince anyone at this point?

[Dumbcake-westfall]

I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Patiently anticipating the 70 boost announcement. They’ve never waited this long for a cash shop item announcement.

Getting my popcorn ready for that.

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

I’m wondering when exactly the 1-per-account boost restriction is going to be lifted. Because it will be lifted; just a matter of when.

[Tesalyn-pagle]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

@Tesalyn-pagle

idk why you decide to act dumb

I’m not the one being proven wrong by literally the 2nd post in the thread.

You saying you proved me wrong by linking someone’s first comment is not you proving anything.
There, I just proved that oranges are actually yellow. Just like that.

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

“No compromise needed” has 7 likes, which is more than all of your linked threads combined.

@Emmortahl-nazjatar

@Pazorax-1880

feedback on how to improve the tool and make it better

Best way to make it better, is to remove it and put in RDF.

and this one has over 400 likes.
and 10 replies later, my comment has nearly 300 likes.

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

Pro-RDF is largely unwilling to compromise.

says who? you? based off what exactly?
I liked first 7 links I could find in first 10 seconds. One of them was anti-RDF OP. Sure, so you’re going to ignore the rest? As per usual. I can link you dozens more.

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

I just did in my prior post,

link it agan. And not the blue post saying “we’ve heard community feedback”, because clearly they haven’t. I’m looking for hard numbers.

Yall claim how we are the loud minority. So if you to follow your absolutely pure-guess logic, how exactly did they hear the feedback from those who don’t talk?

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

Yes, I will continue to dismiss invalid sources. Provide a valid source and it won’t get dismissed.

Who are you to determine that wowlogs is not a valid source? You are just going to dismiss 30,000 voites? Just like that? Because you don’t like it? LMAO

[Sethyl-faerlina]

People said that for TBC too…

Lots of conspiracy theory here.

Also, of course Blizzard make decision that generates revenue, it’s a business. That’s how business work. If they ever get a clear business case that RDF could drive revenue, I have no doubt they will implement it.

In the meantime, I was making a hypothetical discussion around compromise for RDF seeing how it’s absence is literally ruining the entire expansion for some people…

[Zaalg-ashkandi]

Are people still getting baited by Bloomer? Amazing he isn’t on everyone’s Ignore list by now.

[Sethyl-faerlina]

Well you are here and contributed quite actively to the discussion lol

[Confidence-heartseeker]

@Zaalg-ashkandi

Are people still getting baited by Bloomer? Amazing he isn’t on everyone’s Ignore list by now

Your personality is literally that of an unwitting and unironic troll.

Bloomsday just believes in what he believes in and is willing to back it up.

You want to back up what you’re saying, then merely do so using bad logic and by throwing insults

[Tesalyn-pagle]

@Confidence-heartseeker

and is willing to back it up.

He is yet to link a single source. Blue post is not a source of data. It’s another claim without any back up.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Tesalyn-pagle

You saying you proved me wrong by linking someone’s first comment is not you proving anything.

Except it is. You said I was 100% wrong when I said pro-RDF is unwilling to compromise. But you failed to read the very first post from someone who is pro-RDF, unwilling to compromise, and has more likes than the OP.

This is what we call proof Tesalyn.

@Tesalyn-pagle

@Emmortahl-nazjatar

est way to make it better, is to remove it and put in RDF.

and this one has over 400 likes.
and 10 replies later, my comment has nearly 300 likes

So you linked yet another pro-RDF poster saying that the’yre unwilling to compromise with the new tool, and it got 400 likes, and you think this is helping you?

Tesalyn, you are further proving my point! This isn’t fun if I don’t get to defend my point myself. You are literally giving us proof that pro-RDF is unwilling to compromise meanwhile anti-RDF is.

@Tesalyn-pagle

says who? you? based off what exactly?

Based off all the evidence I’ve linked you that you continue to ignore. Also based off of all the evidence you’ve linked yourself.

@Tesalyn-pagle

One of them was anti-RDF OP

The other one was two different threads by the same person. The other ones you can’t say conclusively if they are pro-RDF or anti-RDF. You don’t know their alignment. Just like you didn’t know Confidence’s.

@Tesalyn-pagle

I can link you dozens more.

Please do! I would appreciate you proving yourself wrong more.

@Tesalyn-pagle

link it agan.

Link what exactly?

@Tesalyn-pagle

Yall claim how we are the loud minority.

Quote where I have ever claimed this. I’ll wait.

@Tesalyn-pagle

Who are you to determine that wowlogs is not a valid source

Someone that understands how statistics, the player base, and Warcraftlogs works.

[Tesalyn-pagle]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

@Tesalyn-pagle

says who? you? based off what exactly?

Based off all the evidence I’ve linked you that you continue to ignore.

You never linked anything.
Go ahead. Link it right now.

This is your chance. Show me a graph, data, statistic. Anything with numbers that there are more anti-RDF than pro-RDF.

DO it. And I will never contradict you again.
Match 26k poll of wowlogs.
Match 28k poll on youtube.
Match all smaller polls.

Go ahead. I’ll wait.
But I bet your wrinkly butt, you can’t.

[Confidence-heartseeker]

@Tesalyn-pagle

He is yet to link a single source.

You linked my thread as a source for him, lmao, self checkmate.

Secondly, logic can be used in an argument as ridiculous as RDF/Anti RDF, you don’t need some peer reviewed study or “official statement”. People have totally just forgotten about making rational arguments. “SOURCES SAY DROPPED OBJECTS FALL UPWARDS”, well I’ll be! Guess gravity works upwards if someone makes an official statement claiming so

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Tesalyn-pagle

Go ahead. Link it right now.

@Donkaa-herod

No compromises needed because RDF doesn’t hurt anything. If the goal is to incentivize manual grouping, add the stat boost to manual groups instead of RDF groups

@Goon-yojamba

As fellow forum lurkers may already be aware, I’m firmly of the no RDF persuasion.

My main gripe with RDF is how it impacts server identity, accountability and interaction with other players that exist in your game world (Realm).

To a lesser extent how it impacts interaction with the world with the teleport feature, but it’s not the hill I’d die on as flying mounts at 80 largely kill the whole travelling to a dungeon vibe and also levelling in vanilla for example is such a huge environment without a mount or with a 60% mount or even with a 100% mount it can take ages to traverse the continents to get to the dungeon.

You missed it the first time around?

[Manastorm-windseeker]

this whole “rdf existing in classic” fan fiction is getting boring

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Confidence-heartseeker

You linked my thread as a source for him, lmao, self checkmate

I truly, in 7k+ posts, have never seen something quite like this. Half of me wishes they all did this.

[Tesalyn-pagle]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

You missed it the first time around?

A thread? How’s this a source? You’re so stuck up on this little thing. Sure, some anti LFG folks are willing to compromise. Some don’t. Some pro RDF is willing to compromise, some dont. SO what?

@Tesalyn-pagle

This is your chance. Show me a graph, data, statistic. Anything with numbers that there are more anti-RDF than pro-RDF.

DO it. And I will never contradict you again.
Match 26k poll of wowlogs.
Match 28k poll on youtube.
Match all smaller polls.

Go ahead. I’ll wait.
But I bet your wrinkly butt, you can’t.

Go ahead mate.
This is it.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Tesalyn-pagle

A thread? How’s this a source?

Because your claim which I suppose I have to remind you of, was this:

@Tesalyn-pagle

This is literally the only thread.

So yeah, a thread is a source in this case, and it proves you wrong.

[Tesalyn-pagle]

Link me a source that claims that there are more anti RDF than there are pro-RDF.
I want to see numbers. Numbers.