It’s not, you just have to be willing to put the team’s interests ahead of your own.
Selfish players who only care about themselves will get rejected by good teams, that’s true. But that’s nobody’s fault but the selfish player’s.
Wrong. It’s allowed by Blizzard and will stay that way.
If you don’t have money and can’t buy what others can, that’s too bad.
That’s capitalism and business for you.
This makes sense. So buying things makes things more complicated but not impossible to parse? I can see that.
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Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for Blizzard.
You’re making a mountain out of a molehill and being extremely dramatic.
It’s a tiny fraction of players that actually do this, and it effects even fewer people.
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Yeah like I said I’m pretty ignorant of that whole system since I’ve never used it, I’m a little surprised there isn’t an easy way to tell if someone’s buying carries or not.
I dunno about other people buying carries, but I did it exactly once because I wanted the moose mount. I didn’t have any intention of getting into any mythic raids before or after that, or I would have tried to just get it legitimately. I can’t really imagine why someone would buy a clear and then try to get into actual guild runs.
Maybe it’s just me, but someone having bought a mythic clear affects my “immersion” exactly 0%. The story being a load of dung is what ruins that for me. Most of your argument boils down to players caring too much about what others have instead of focusing on their own enjoyment, which like I said before, I don’t really understand. I guess if that’s what’s important to them they’re probably playing the wrong type of game since people have been paying for clears and all sorts of other things since vanilla.
Covered that part, I have no idea how common it is for someone to buy so many different clears just to make themselves appear as a fully fledged mythic raider, but the number can’t be very high. And the group would figure it out rather quickly and remove them if it’s a raid.
Most people probably buy a clear for the mount and never get another one.
I’m brought back to one of my first comments, why even bother taking part in a forum if you’re not here for actual discussion? Your attitude doesn’t really make sense to me.
How can you know this? I play healers nearly exclusively and love nothing more than to heal and or buff random people I see running around. I enjoy WoW specifically to help other people. That being said I’ve had a terrible time finding a guild on my new server. I hit guild finder and eventually get in a guild and the last three have imploded due to drama on discord that I didn’t even know about.
Being selfless certainly helps get a good guild but it doesn’t guarantee it. Granted this part of the BFA patch is pretty barren and maybe that’s why I can’t find a good guild currently.
People will pay for their boosts, always have and always will. There is no way around this.
Looks like the main reason for people’s concerns with this is that the boosted player will make their way into high key Mythic dungeons and raids with their fake IO score and completely ruin the run because their accomplishments aren’t genuine. There is a way around this though - it’s called playing with people you actually know and trust. If you’re doing high end late game content, then you shouldn’t even be playing with randoms in the first place, you should be playing with your group of friends / guild that you progressed with.
Avoid doing late game content with people you don’t know - you have the agency to do this, and know that if you do PUG a random, you run the risk of them sabotaging content because they might be boosted.
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Apparently you can tell. Who knew?
Totally forgot about logs. That’ll do it.
This is a perfect indication, honestly.
May not be concrete fact, but the chance of it is very slim. I would definitely go by these standards and not allow such people into my raids.
Problem #1: You went to a server, then tried to find a guild. That’s backwards. Find a guild FIRST, and move to their server to join them.
Problem #2: Good guilds don’t use guild finder.
Problem #3: See problem #2.
Ok. You’ve told me all the ways to not find a guild. How does one do so?
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Sounds more like an elitist problem than anything else. Sorry your feelings have been hurt but it does not effect you in any way if somebody pays in gold for a run or carry. Been happening since this game started.
It is not just you, but it’s not everyone. Far from it. Thus, your own opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant when discussing the statement that carries paid for by real money affect the game. If there exist people whose immersion is broken, the game IS affected. I am one of those people, and thus a living rebuke of the original claim.
The vast majority of players are NOT mythic raiders. I am not. I do not care if you are. I do know for a fact that in many LFG listed heroic raids, there is a “link AotC for instant invite” description. Every LFG raid has an ilvl minimum, and almost all PuG 10+ mythic keys have a raider io requirement.
Mythic guild leaders will do non-negligable research into their applicants. But many heroic PuG raid leaders will not. Every heroic PuG player will thus be affected by the carries. Your personal experience is again irrelevant.
I was here for discussion. I posted “false”. That’s how I chose to discuss.
I don’t care.
And just as I chose to humor you and present obvious statement throughout multiple posts, I now choose to stop replying to any more of your posts.
Have a good day.
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My opinion isn’t irrelevant just because you disagree with it.
If people want to make sure their applicants are qualified to run the content they’re applying for, they should go the full mile and actually vet them instead of just checking an achievement that can be faked anyway. So if they’re letting in some people that buy carries, that’s their own problem and it’s one that can easily be rectified.
Darn. I was really enjoying you telling me my opinions are irrelevant for no reason whatsoever.
Honestly it just seems people are paying others to play the game for them.
Who cares about them?
If someone pays for full 470 ilvl gear and enough 15+ runs runs in raider io and full Mythic clear, it’s a huge waste of money on gear that they won’t be able to re-use in high content. If that makes them happy that’s ok with me.
Meanwhile I can do my Heroics/+5-10 for free (sometimes do higher), get real enjoyment out of doing content with people. I’m happy with my 900 io score 
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I think I’ve won out here 
But you’ll have to, especially if you are pugging.
But you’ll have to, especially if you are pugging.
But you’ll have to, especially if you are pugging.
Sounds like most of your problems stem from pugging groups, which is more the lack of knowledge the general playerbase has not a gold buying issue.
Most of your problems are solved by running with a guild.
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this has always been the case. this is the reason why I stopped playing Warcraft. Blizzard Entertainment doesn’t care about any of you players. stop playing the game and then they cant make there money. the game started to suck after the cap went from 60-70. and now lets keep putting out expansions and everyone will buy gold and get to the next cap in one day and the guild system is bs. noone wants to help and your right noone wants to work at a game. I loved Warcraft when you had to meet at the meeting stones and now its all taking a portal and the game became super easy. all they care about is the money.
Convinent doesn’t make easy(retail.), just as inconvienence doesn’t make the game hard (classic.) it merely does just that. The mechanics in endgame now vs end game classic are miles apart. You just had to do a lot more simple grinding and take more time to do it in classic.
As to OP I see no reason with letting people spend their gold how they want to. You can usually tell when a player has been carried through the content by looking them up on raider io or inspecting their character. While it sucks to have 470s doing 28k dps it’s always going to happen because some people just aren’t as good as others.