A letter of plea to Blizzard Entertainment and it's employees, your game is being ruined

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Your game is being slowly destroyed from the inside by the players and they don’t even realize it. This is happening for 1 simple reason, it is allowed to sell in-game content to other players, a simple fix is to make this a suspendable offense in the ToU. (For the ones with… a challenged IQ, that does not mean bannable).

Let me try to bring this issue to light just a little bit, I can buy my way through the ENTIRE game, this list is basically the entire game. What is stopping someone from going to a gold site and purchasing 9,999,999 gold for $500 and buying all this?

  • Cloak Upgrades
  • Vision Full Clears
  • 12/12 Mythic of Ny’alotha
  • A full suite of +15 Mythic Plus in-time
  • Quest/Zone completions
  • Level Boosting
  • PvP Ranks
  • Island Expeditions
  • Black Market Auction House
  • Rare Pets/Battle Pets
  • Rare items old expansions like Tusks of Mannoroth
  • Rare mount farm from old expansions
  • Transmog Farming

The game is harder than ever to play because you have people that purchase gear, then go into high level content and have absolutely no clue what they are doing. You have people with 470 ilvl doing 28k DPS and people with 450 ilvl doing 60k. Addons like Raider io only exaggerate this issue because you can buy io rating, you are spending in-game gold on something for a third party… which I believe should be illegal… but it isn’t.

When you tell a player to look at the Dungeon Journal, they say “What’s that?”. Over the years the IQ of the general population (of wow) has dropped so much that something as simple as not standing in fire is a challenge, there’s even an achievement for it.

This issue has always been prevalent, but recently it’s been insanely bad, I wish Blizz had statistics on who buys content vs clears it their self because I would love to see the numbers. In trade chat, all I see every day are people either buying content, or selling content. It’s sickening.

I shouldn’t have to tell people to interrupt.

I shouldn’t have to tell people to not stand in fire.

I shouldn’t have to babysit people so that I can play the game my self.

This issue isn’t just Blizzards fault, it’s everyone’s. Blizzards for allowing it, the players for taking advantage of it, the teachers for awarding participation stickers when we were children.

We are a generation of instant gratification, we don’t want to work towards anything, and it’s sad.

Please, Blizzard, do something about this.

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They’ll get their account hack, their card gets a lot of charges put onto them, running the risk of having your credit score getting hit hard, etc.

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Is this not what raiderio is for?

Also… how does one exactly buy a completely RNG, easily soloable drop like the Tusks of Mannoroth? unless you’re talking black market, of which it’s completely RNG if it shows up.

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The selling of carries for in-game currency is not against the rules, it does not affect the game in any way, shape or form.

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Stay in school kids.

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Interested in buying a carry, want a boost to your alt…you know we are here for the right price of gold!

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when have bad players getting carried to the top ever not been the case?

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True.

False.

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They don’t need your account details, you can pay with paypal, and they don’t need your SSN…

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I stayed in school, it doesn’t affect the game in any way, shape or form.

You’re just salty because you can’t afford these things and you don’t want other people to have them either.

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Plebs getting carried for gold is hardly whats ruining the game.

There’s a lot of things dragging WoW down, and it’s purely developer arrogance.

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Whats to stop them?

If Blizzard finds out about the buy, and they will, then the account is banned for good.

That $500? Gone. What you bought? Gone.

Not to mention what could happen from buying from those sites.

In game gold selling services are also at your own risk.

Scams can be dealt with, but there’s also no guarantee you’d get the gold you spent back if scammed.

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Good counter argument, man. Got em. :+1:t2:

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The quality of my counter-argument is well-measured to the quality of the original argument.

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AND, Blizz will likely know they’ve gotten gold from one of these sites and likely ban them.

Yeah, I wouldn’t want to risk all THAT myself.

(no sarcasm, BTW… I just read that and it could be taken that way :confused: )

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To be fair they weren’t really making an argument, just stating their opinion. If you think selling carries affects the game in a serious way, why not elaborate?

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Blizzard could easily solve this issue by having things like repairs, flights and other services be a % of your net worth. That way you would want all your gold converted into trade materials rather than leaving it as gold so it doesn’t keep getting “taxed” away.
Consumption tax, maybe even have a weekly loa offering buff that you need to put up a % of your gold up to 10% for a 10% damage/healing/damage reduction buff. If you have 1000g thats 100g for the week… if you have 1000000 thats 100000.

It provides incentives for players to spend gold rather than horde it (since over time you will lose a large chunk of it, you mares well spend it on thing). Although if hoarding is your thing you still can, you just need to work harder to overcome the weekly character maintenance costs. This is how you redistribute wealth.

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If you’re paying for these, then that’s just a lazy player. It happens, but Blizzard’s job isn’t to babysit the player base.

Carries for raids have been in the game since Vanilla. I should know, the group I ran Zul’Gurub with were selling them. This has been in the game for 15+ years; again, Blizzard’s job isn’t to babysit people.

I dare you to show me where people are paying others for this…

Blizzard selling this should make players not want to pay third party folks for it, but again, people are free to use their money as they see fit. And Blizzard aren’t babysitters.

Also been a thing for as long as PvP ranks have existed, this is nothing new. See above regarding babysitters.

Please actually show me people paying to be carried in island expeditions.

People have bought gold for years. Just before, it so happened to be TCG items that people would pay real money for to get. Some of those cards are upwards of thousands of dollars now to get that item you can’t get in any other part of the game.

I know people who have farmed SoO for years and still haven’t gotten the Tusks of Mannoroth. I would love to see a website that can guarantee these drop.

People can solo these. Once again if they’re paying for someone else to do it, that’s on them and it’s sad.

What you’ve linked doesn’t even lead to your next point about the game being harder than ever and people failing. The only ones that matter are the top ones; the rest, if people are paying for carries, they’re either wasting money or they’re allowing others to play their account and thus putting their account at risk, none of which affect you.

Yes, ilvl inflation is a huge issue. But you can get high ilvl by just doing generic content, you don’t even have to get carried, and that’s a serious issue. That’s why Titanforging was so bad for the game. As for Raider IO, you can buy ranking, sure. But I still find that the higher the IO, the better the player. You’ll always get the wannabes who bought their way up, and that’s just the risk you run when running with pugs. If you don’t want to experience this kind of problem, you need friends or a guild.

The players are the ones who do it, and they can honestly choose what they do with their money and how they play their game. Blizzard cannot and should not police them when it comes to this. YOU can help yourself by finding a guild or a group and remove yourself from the pug life.

I don’t know what you think Blizzard is able to do about it; trading gold for services as been a thing for this game’s entire life, and it’s all about time vs. money. Some people value one over the other, and they’ll use one to get the other. Again, it’s just part of the game, and the nature of this kind of content. Pugs are always going to be subpar compared to guild groups and groups of friends; that’s the nature of the beast.

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Buying carries with gold isn’t ruining the game, top kek

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You can’t buy that much gold for $500.

So that is a very good “stop.”

Your point is diluted, when what you really want to say is you don’t like people getting carried for gold. Blizzard says it is fine, though.

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