A Formal Request Thread for Fresh/New TBC Servers

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Claìrè-stormrage

@Piper-shadowsong

“Fresh” NEW Servers don’t make a whole lot of sense because it’s repeating the same process, over and over, again expecting things to change, here’s a hint: they won’t.

This right here is a summary of just how blind you are of to what people are really asking for.

No, the OP explicitly stated they want some utopian stagnated server with their version of “fresh” NEW Servers. They’re hoping to dissolve the infestation of Bots, GDKP, players with mountains of gold, etc. I’ll quote for you, so you don’t think I’m lying:

@Drooler-grobbulus

Why?

Many of us watched Classic unfold with new metas and exploits that were not wildly present or at all in Vanilla. Such events have made the server economy flux in a way that is not true to the original spirit of the game.

The popularity of Boosts and GDKPs have encouraged RMT sales and many players brag about their purchases, to sadly no punishment given.

This will result in an absurd economy that many of us wish to avoid entirely.

https://classic.wowhead.com/news=321034/the-burning-crusade-classic-no-gold-cap-on-transfers

There will be no gold caps, meaning tens of thousands of gold will be brought into Burning Crusade.

Back in the day, this amount was unheard of. Only the elite raiders could boast 5,000g. Epic mounts were rare.

If Boosting and GDKP was all done with clean, legit gold, then only the hard earned and farmed gold would be circulated. But it is not. It is dirty RMT gold, as shown by this GDKP sword that supposedly went for ~$3,500:

The OP’s words, NOT mine. I won’t lump you (Claire, specifically) in with the OP’s desires. CLEARLY that is what the OP is hoping for, but it’s just NOT going to happen. Regardless of how many NEW Servers you implement.

@Claìrè-stormrage

Fresh TBC servers are literally the embodiment of this sentiment so many people want to experience

I can see this for Seasonal Servers. And, I really hate to break it to you, but there’s a reason why Blizz didn’t create NEW Servers. 'Cause there’s not as “many of you”, that you’re claiming there are. Blizz’s main priority (and they said this) is the community in favor of PROGRESSION. Because there’s more of them than there are of “fresh”.

@Claìrè-stormrage

You’re one and only argument is that you don’t want to “clog” server lists and oh boy, I sure hope you didn’t play vanilla TBC and even Wrath with the explosion of new servers required for population

Oh boy, Blizz is on an “#somechanges” stance. Their “solution” to counter the “population” problem is LAYERING! Not to mention, they’ve provided a Level 58 Boost, something that wasn’t even around then. Why bother making more Servers (to split the community further) just to have them become dead AFTER the NEW Server crowd gets their jollies in:

@Endocrine-benediction

Those first few weeks

When, in the future, Blizz is going to implement Connected Realms (because they don’t want to do Server Merges), by the time these Servers become Classic Era Type Servers. And, the Classic Era Type Servers lose their Server Identities because of it. See, how that became full circle?

@Claìrè-stormrage

If you don’t want it, fine. Why rob the potential thousands that do?

Because it will force Blizzard’s hand to implement Connected Realms, as the Classic Era Type Servers begin to dwindle, and those Servers lose Server Identities. I get it, it’s Blizz’s solution to counteract against “dead realms”, but why create more “dead realms”? When we can work together to maybe counteract the Connected Realm implementation? Because I don’t want that. I want Server Identities still, within the Classic Era Type Servers.

@Lunaseeker-atiesh

After the servers are no longer ‘fresh’ we…keep playing on them because we built a community on them

How is this any different from the already established servers?

@Lunaseeker-atiesh

Given Blizzard is already planning on creating a few dozen dead classic era realms when TBC launches… I don’t see how adding a couple servers hurts anything

It hurts the fact that the Classic Era Type of Servers will lose their Server identities and suffer the penalty of Connected Realms thanks to all of these “NEW” Servers being implemented and splitting up the Classic Era Types off forcing Blizz’s hand to implement Connected Realms. A feature I dread.

@Claìrè-stormrage

I think classic servers right now are exactly how they were right before original TBC launch. What is your point here?

That the OP’s reasons for “fresh” is to do away with all of that. Like I’ve been saying.

@Claìrè-stormrage

As for new servers. Absolutely yes. It gives everyone a chance for an even playing field. What more needs to be explained here?

An “even playing field” of what, exactly? If the Classic Servers, as they are, going into BC, how is not an “even playing field”? When these Classic Servers (as they are) are going into BC, and they started “fresh”, so they are already an “even playing field”.

I get it, I (too) view BC as an entirely different game than Classic and didn’t oppose a “fresh” experience. But, that stance is the minority stance, so you have to accept that and take the L. That being said, IK Seasonal Servers are coming. And, I hope Blizz offers a Paid Service to archive/save Seasonal Server Characters onto stagnated servers. And think that’ll be the great compromise between NEW Servers and Seasonal Servers. Along with Classic Era Types avoiding the Connected Realm situation, if we can.

EDIT: I mentioned this, too, in a thread I made talking about it because not enough are talking about it.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/overlooked-possibility-keyword-that-nobody-generalization-is-really-talking-about/884567