There is no we there is blizzard.
Ill answer your question with a question. In the entire history of wow has blizzard EVER merged a server into one entity? Not merge them into one shard. Merge them into one server.
I don’t think current Blizzard would do a great job with Classic+ so I don’t trust them and would rather not have a Classic+ as a result.
Theyve been saying that since 2004, still not done.
I mean, it is you saying we should care about what happens to Skeram.
So what if they can’t play battlegrounds anymore? That might be a good way to force the population into better servers that could use them. Cross realm battlegrounds probably shouldn’t have been a thing in the first place.
I dont
If the person removes the ability for BGs to exist by making it server only like it was in original vanilla, which was ALSO a problem in original vanilla before Cross realm BGs, then servers with no or low pop on the other side WILLNOT get to pvp at all. Which brings us back to merge the servers which brings us back to blizzard has never done that and around we go.
Or a good way to get people to quit your game. People that were on balanced servers and because blizzard tried to deal with server load moved factions around created this the rest fled when it gets past about 20% in one direction.
You can go back in time and bring that point up with the developers if you want.
Trying to think practically, I can’t imagine Classic+ turning into anything other than one of the following:
- Basically TBC, but without Outland, Flying Mounts, or New Races
- Classic, but with Retail mechanics as the Retail devs would inevitably be pulled to work on it.
- Classic, with Vanilla’s cut content, which would probably be 1 patch worth of new content. (And sort of overlaps with TBC but without Outland, Fliers, or Races)
None of these sounds like something I’d play. If the Retail devs work on Classic+, they’ll put in Retail features because that’s what they know how to do. If they go the OSRS route, it may go in ways that many here might not desire, and likely would just end up as Franken-Retail. ONLY doing cut Vanilla content and putting in TBC balance changes would amount to all of one patch which would be a very, very short lived “Classic+”.
Also all of these things sound like content dead-ends that would constantly come to blows with its own playerbase on how to move forward and might end up dead in the water via a stalemate.
Or we can just release TBC. That’s just money on the table.
I’m not saying this to tear down people who want Classic+ and I’m not against it in principle, I just don’t see how it would be a happy ending for anyone if I put enough thought into it.
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All of the cut content boils down to the following:
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/8c0t4b/cutunfinished_content/
Almost every single one of these things got used in the future in one way or another, either almost entirely as more or less intended (Hyjal zone/instance, Grim Batol instance, Karazhan’s repeated use as a raid and Legion artifacts, etc), or we simply glossed over some of the plot gaps and jumped into the next plot point (Emerald Nightmare, Uldum, etc).
Things like a pre-Worgen-curse Gilneas would be super cool, and areas that already exist being fully fleshed out like we saw in Cataclysm (if they survived that is), but that’s still just… expansion content at 60.
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Classic+ that you’re seeking is Shadowlands on Retail, it’s the closest that you will ever get. Blizzard isn’t gonna put funding In a new project like this, people just need to come to their senses.
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no. also, no.
Do you mean last patch when they introduced welfare catch up gear? Or do you mean the introduction of daily quests, which were WoW’s first baby steps into daily chores and mandatory content to force people to log in everyday and do them?
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Perhaps the Blizzard devs need to let go of their ego and hire people who are in love with this game and let them work out their passion. That’s how Jeff Kaplan and the other dudes started it aswell.
Yes. Yes it is.
Retail is a turd thats circling the drain and recycling your old content doesn’t have a sustainable future. If the WoW franchise is going to make it into the next decade its not going to be without a soft reboot of their most cherished version of the game and thats vanilla.
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As a retail regular player i have to say, Activision Would never allow a classic +, and if it does… you really want these guys to developer a classic +? the creators of Torghast?
Enjoy TBC… Enjoy classic, because sooner or later, the Cataclysm will come for all of you.
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I would like to see Classic+ realms added around 6-9 months from now when TBC is in the middle of its life and classic is pretty much dead as an attempt to revive a game in an interesting way.
That being said I’d love to see 60 arenas in Classic+, similar to how there were level 60 arenas in the 2.0 Pre-patch (pre dark portal).
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OFC I would absolutely love Classic+, the only thing that is a red flag in my mind is, Blizz has really lacked on the expansions in a great while. How do we know they won’t just ruin Classic+?
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you just explained why classic+ would be bad from “We learned that”. A lot of raiders would be “benched” unless they rerolled to keep that spot, so on and so fourth. Heck, we are already seeing it happening now going into prep for TBC. Meta this meta that, it destroyed what made the game fun. Sure, meta to just easy mode the content, but you will not feel satisfaction. Anyone that says they have, are the first to complain when something doesn’t go there way.
I get it, classic+ seems like the perfect answer to everything, but I disagree. We are seeing elements of what a “classic+” could look like in retail when shadowlands prepatch dropped, it wasn’t good. SO let me ask you this, how will you play the new zones, dungeons, and raids? Will the new zones be new endgame? Or new leveling opportunities? Will dungeons be the same as the new zones? And will the new raids be optional along side certain raid tiers like MC/Ony vs Kara/Mag/Gruul?
Classic+, imo, sounds a lot like a project that will not be something that people will like at the end of the day imo.
Blizzard won’t invest the money for an untested product when they have the “Classic” lineup probably planned all the way up to Cata or MoP.
Since Activision purchased Blizzard the #1 priority has become shareholder returns not customer satisfaction. Given how badly BFA showed and how much Shadowlands is about to crash Blizzard really won’t be experimenting instead expect to see sped up release scheduled for Diablo Immortal, Diablo 4, TBC Classic and Major Patch updates for Shadowlands.
Also as the end of Q4 approaches expect to see huge offerings like “Free diablo 4 with year subscription” to maintain sub numbers for the quarterly report.
Seriously just follow the Activision shareholder release reports, there will not be a Classic+.
Classic/ Vanilla is a known quantity. You couldnt go wrong with a Classic+ although Id have to concede it could be done wrong.
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I would be content if Classic+ equaled keeping the portal closed, but utilizing ALL content from vanilla to wrath (everything on the main planet basically), retuned to L60. Additionally opening things that were never implemented in vanilla like Azshara Crater, the crypt next to Kara (usidedown sinners, etc)
A lot of stuff existed in vanilla but was never implemented/used. There would not be a ton of risk of the current team “retailing” it.
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