A courteous word about LGBT representation

[Lootmagnet-zuljin]

I for one think WoW isn’t gay enough

I want romance quests with various NPCs of various races genders & sexualities

More specifically, I want to scissor a murloc, it’s my biggest fantasy

I want a gratuitous scissoring cutscene between my character & a murloc & I will accept no substitutes

I should start a petition

[Lilus-archimonde]

@Lootmagnet-zuljin

More specifically, I want to scissor a murloc, it’s my biggest fantasy

I want a gratuitous scissoring cutscene between my character & a murloc & I will accept no substitutes

Stop it. Get some help.

[Kakita-duskwood (Kakita)]

@Ifelixl-quelthalas

marketing goes on and on, and the consequences don’t matter.

Yes… it does. I’m sorry, did you somehow interpret what I said as somehow supportive of LGBTQIA+ and a super awesome ally? Cause that’s not what I said.

I said it shows that the bigotted and hateful are a small enough portion that marketing doesn’t care about them. That the LGBTQIA+ are big enough to warrant attention.

That’s a symptom, a side effect. It’s a sign that society is changing and companies seeking profit adapt to stay profitable.

This is us getting better lives and the people that want us dead or buried losing strength. That a company is getting profit or is even there is a secondary issue at best.

@Lilus-archimonde

Anyway, as Nataeris has pointed out: the sheer number we’re seeing in Dragonflight is beyond parody.

The sheer number? What? 6, 8? Out of 170k NPCs, all of which are parts of side quests and don’t even read as specifically LGBTQIA+ unless you talk to them and think about it?

Oh yes, definitely pandering. Why just the other week I watched the film Spirited, and you know what? Will Farrel’s character was attracted to a… woman. Can you believe how they’re pandering that to us?

[Ifelixl-quelthalas (Ifelixl)]

Murlocs are to be hated, especially in Elwynn forest, they should not be treated lightly.

Or, as the case may be, a bad joke like this one from AZmerloth.

Possibly The Best WoW Questline Blizzard Ever Made

@Kakita-duskwood

Yes… it does. I’m sorry, did you somehow interpret what I said as somehow supportive of LGBTQIA+ and a super awesome ally? Cause that’s not what I said.

I said it shows that the bigotted and hateful are a small enough portion that marketing doesn’t care about them. That the LGBTQIA+ are big enough to warrant attention.

That’s a symptom, a side effect. It’s a sign that society is changing and companies seeking profit adapt to stay profitable.

They don’t care, not even if it changes, when society changes, for them it’s an opportunity, they’ve always done the same thing for years.

That’s why you have to be careful, obviously it would be in support, but it should be interesting, not to turn even a FROGS into LGBT.

Blizzard actually turned the frogs gay

[Ismenea-amanthul]

Internalised Homophobia is still homophobia.

[Vexarion-wyrmrest-accord]

If you’re uncomfortable seeing a lot of people like you represented in this game, then I would suggest you look inward for the reason why rather than project it outward onto everyone else. We are not done a “disservice” by representation, and it’s far from “courteous” for you to insist that it’s unrealistic. My life is filled with fellow LGBTQ+ people and my little gay heart could not possibly be happier to see all of these lovely couples just out living their lives and being happy together. We should all be so lucky.

I hope you’re able to find some peace and unlearn the internalized homophobia that makes you recoil at the sight of your own community.

[Pandaexpress-cenarius]

Who cares, go plug this crap in the LGBTQIDABC forum you screamed to have created.

[Skarm-sentinels (Skarm)]

@Ifelixl-quelthalas

That’s why you have to be careful, obviously it would be in support, but it should be interesting, not to turn even a FROGS into LGBT.

…so the joke is, it’s a “the water is turning the frogs gay!” meme reference?

[Xunametra-barthilas]

@Lilus-archimonde

@Kahpitdragga-hakkar-2168062

Bliz is trying to work its way out of its horrible womanizing image of late. They might be over reacting taking things too far, maybe not, but they have a LOT of activist sorts screaming at them for more representation…so Id think theyre scrambling around just trying to figure out how to douse the flames…kinda like my black friend who is VERY conservative dealing with his VERY liberal family. They EXPECT him to be liberal and when he isnt, in order to keep the peace he has to behave in ways that are contrary to his nature.

Bliz very likely has no clue what to do with all this right now given their own issues added to everything else going on.

Here’s a simple solution:
Just make a game. Don’t force anything into it.

As the OP stated, the actual LGB population is about 8%
You want to toss a couple or two in? Fine. I won’t begrudge that. However, as Nataeris has pointed out, there comes a point where you’ve gone beyond what you could reasonably expect and have officially entered the realm of parody.

Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0TRCbdPZo

@Nataeris-gurubashi

But I’m pretty much certain that I’ll get dragged into the dirt if I don’t say it. I am a homosexual man.

Well, it was a good effort, but sadly it would seem some folks here think you’re lying.
I’m only about ten posts deep into an 800+ post thread. Knowing how accepting progressives are when it comes to people with a different opinion, I have no doubt there’s at least one LGB person in this thread accusing you of “not being gay enough.”

Anyway, hang in there Nataeris. Glad someone like you pointed out how far into parody this has gone, because if I or any other straight player tried to do this, then we’d be straight up crucified by the so called “tolerant left.”

Psst: Nataeris isn’t really a gay person who hasn’t read the forums since launch. They are an alt. They might even be YOUR alt, for all we know.

Double Psst: Did you know that frogs are capable of changing sex as they like?

[Pyrano-wyrmrest-accord]

I am gay and I am tired of constantly being harrassed and attacked by members of the LGB and T demographic, being attacked by liberals, progressives and leftists and even here on gaming forums getting constant silences.

It’s annoying.

[Padgarre-lightbringer (Padgarre)]

Make it stop. Please spaghetti lord of the forums, almighty master of trolls, and creator of all things fast food will you end this blight upon us.

[Xunametra-barthilas]

@Pyrano-wyrmrest-accord

I am gay and I am tired of constantly being harrassed and attacked by members of the LGB and T demographic, being attacked by liberals, progressives and leftists and even here on gaming forums getting constant silences.

It’s annoying.

Being gay doesn’t prevent you from being a piece of crap. Being a piece of crap gets you reported, silenced and banned.

1+1=2

[Pyrano-wyrmrest-accord]

Having a differing opinion or pointing out the objective truth of material reality does not equal “being a piece of crap” no matter how many character insults you falsely throw at me

[Xunametra-barthilas]

Opinions are like buttholes; many of them stink. Pretending like opinions can’t be stupid or wrong is dumb.

You’re entitled to your opinions; you’re not entitled to proffer it free from judgment or social recourse. Either have your opinion in silence, or deal with the consequences of sharing it.

[Pyrano-wyrmrest-accord]

When an opinion is rooted in the observation of a fact, it is seldom “wrong”. Facts aren’t wrong, and neither are observations about material reality.

[Xunametra-barthilas]

What you claim to be reality simply isn’t more than your opinion. Repeating those claims ad nauseum doesn’t make them any more true.

[Pyrano-wyrmrest-accord]

Nope.

[Xunametra-barthilas]

< your opinion. Fact. Because I said so.

[Powercrystal-faerlina]

I agree, buff DH.

[Pyrano-wyrmrest-accord]

@Xunametra-barthilas

You’re entitled to your opinions; you’re not entitled to proffer it free from judgment or social recourse. Either have your opinion in silence, or deal with the consequences of sharing it.

Sounds awful lot like an inquisition. I guess we have come the full circle.