I have an idea that may serve as a compromise to RDF. Perhaps an improvement to the current group finder would work.
Everytime I post a group, I get bombarded with invite requests. I feel like if they copied the retail version of Group Finder (where you apply and get added to a roster and the group leader can scroll through a roster of applicants) it would be much easier to manage. The current retail version of group finder lists Name, Class, Role, ilvl, and M+ score.
At the very least if the WotLk group finder did Name/Class/Role/GS (would probably have to be done by the addon), it would be miles better than what we have.
No, no compromises. I sign up for regular heroics and still get whispers for ++. I wasnt even signed up for OK since I already did it for the daily. Signed up for ToC heroic and instantly got a whisper if i wanted to tank OK++. I wasnt listed for either which tells me people arent limiting their searches in the LFG tool and just clicking to see who is wanting to run a dungeon, looking at the role, and sending whispers or invites.
he’s just saying to give us the Retail LFG tool, this isn’t actually about RDF (either he’s clickbaiting people with RDF in the title or he genuinely doesn’t know the difference idk).
currently the retail lfg tool lets you sign up for groups, and that gives you basic info (class, role, ilvl) as well as a short message if you made one. the wrath lfg tool on the other hand, you can’t sign up for groups, and you just get a “request to invite XYZ to group” popup with absolutely no info
We want rdf as it was. And since they added beta and alpha, they also need to be included into it. Dont try this crap excuse of claiming that you need more social interaction like with mythic +.
I still want RDF, but +1 to improving the current iteration as well. They should have just implemented retail’s group finder as is, instead of downgrading it. Let us put titles for groups instead of forcing you to hover over a listing to read a comment. A search box so we can filter out what we’re not looking for (full run, skip run, achievement run, etc). Let you apply to multiple groups and join a wait list, instead of the current apply to 1 group and wait system. Fix it so it stops listing you as healer when you’re DPS spec.
It actually creates more interaction. The only social interaction that takes place now is when there is a problem. Like when the boss takes longer than a few seconds to die because soomeone invited someone with a 3k gs. Thst is more likely to happen with rdf. Take 5 3k gs players and have them run a beta dungeon. Yes it will be done and wont he a problem. Because all of wow is easy. But it wont be a 10 min faceroll speed rush like it currently is when all 5 are 5.2k gs.
Rdf only required an average min ilvl. Which means u r going to have at least 1 low geard memeber almost every run.
Also, there is next to ZERO player communication in mythic + on retail. I will bet you anything that you can not prove that not to be true. Go see for yourself. zero communication. ZERO.
back in MoP i was running the Direbrew holiday dungeon and got matched with a 4-man guild group and we got to talking. i had recently become guildless so after doing the holiday battle they invited me to their guild and i joined their raid roster a little bit later. i stayed with that guild up until i quit WoW the first time in BfA. i found a guild i stayed with for 5 years thanks to RDF.
RDF is anti-social that’s my point. If you want to say WOTLK is anti-social enough that it warrants RDF that’s fine. I’m just stating a fact.
No, there is no reality where it creates more social interaction. Your post as a whole is about how it creates more social engagement which is different. At no point are you going to create an acquaintance on your server from using RDF. In modern MMO’s that have an RDF, it’s the same case. I’ve stated in other threads that if you want RDF you may as well have bots run with you through the dungeon. Blizzard endorsed and provided bots of course.
My point to your original post is that you are saying that someone was claiming that they need more social interaction like with mythic + whereas the people who are critical of RDF would be people who don’t like retail systems and wouldn’t make that claim. The demand for RDF, a modern and retail system, would actually more likely come from a player who does mythic+ than the other way around.
Therefore if anyone was going to make the argument that there is more social interaction with mythic +, it would be someone who supported RDF’s implementation than someone who was opposed to it.