A better expansion idea than “Light Crusade”

She never said they were the only ones doing it. Ben Carson, who is Black, said that no muslim should be president.

Fair point. And I didn’t know about Ben Carson, but I’m not surprised to learn about him (and obviously disagree with what he said).

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I never said they were the only ones doing it, I’m saying they are the only ones relevent to the discussion when it comes to western media.

White Supremacy is the ONLY form of racial supremacy that is currently a threat in North America.

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But they aren’t the only ones relevant to the discussion, as shown by the example Doness cited with Ben Carson.

I think that’s case by case. There have been examples on the other side there two examples that refute this; compare how the majority of news media treated Kyle Rittenhouse to how they treated Darrell Edward Brooks - the man behind the Waukesha Christmas parade attack. CNN and MSNBC were far meaner to Kyle than Fox was to Darrell.

And not all terrorists are from the middle east, nor are all middle eastern people terrorists.

When I’m discussing the politicians who go on TV and talk about the region, the majority of them are white and male. I already clarified, twice now, that I should have been more specific about the people I was talking about; the generic politician who goes up, acts like an expert, and knows nothing about what he’s talking about.

It’s a bit funny though; those two words, “white men,” have become your primary talking point. Why is that?

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Thank you for clarifying, since your original statement read as a generalization.

I talk a lot about “white men”, despite not being one myself, because they’re the ones getting singled out and receiving quite a bit of racist and sexist treatment.

White men are the most privileged and protected race and sex in North America. They will never experience disenfranchisement, which means they make up the majority of voters and politicians.

Many times, they feel like the most over-represented group in media. Look at how over-represented white men are even in video game industry and culture.

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I really don’t feel it is either racist or sexist to say they make up the majority of American politicians. Could you clarify why you think it is?

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Partial credit. They used to be.

But you’re wrong if you think they’ll never experience disenfranchisement. On that note, is it black privledge that the majority of voters and politicians in democratic countries of Africa are black? Is it Japanese privledge that the majority of voters and politicians in Japan are Japanese?

Because this statement from you sounded like a generalization;

Though you did clarify later, to be fair.

I’m starting to suspect even more than before that you are racist and sexist yourself. I feel more confident than ever in this assessment.

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The fact that you’ve returned to personal attacks and, once again, dropped arguments and giving evidence shows how hollow your arguments are and further undermines your claim that you considered me a friend, Renautus.

Even worse, it’s the same old “’-ist’ this” and “’-phobe’ that” accusations.

White privilege is simply the advantage that white people have over non-white people in some societies. It depends on the country. It may not exist in certain countries, though said countries may be poor all over. In regards to Africa, in South Africa, the white minority tends to be richer than the Black majority, for example.

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Not to mention, South Africa still had struggle through apartheid even with a black majority. So having a majority doesn’t mean that one race has more power. White colonialists have always held power through wealth.

The same is seen historically in the American South.

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Then in some countries, non-whites have privledge.

That distribution of wealth is shifting. Also, as of now, there’s 54 countries in Africa. South Africa is only 1 of them.

And who do you think I’m supposedly racist against, hm?

Out of all of those 54 countries, only Ethiopia is not colonized.

But the majority of voters (in the countries with voting), politicians and the wealthy are still black there.

Actually, it seems like many countries in Africa are still Authoritarian governments. Africa didn’t begin de-colonization until the 1990’s so they are still really new to democracy. There’s no statistics that I could find that support your argument. If you would like to provide some examples of black majority democracies in Africa, I would appreciate you fact checking your own arguments.

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I was just reminded of this song, after talking about South Africa. I think it applies to Accolonn.

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Black majority democracies in Africa, to name a few;

  • Namibia
  • Botswana
  • Ghana (I was even in Ghana when their current President - Nana Akufo Addo - won the election and was sworn in, watched the inauguration ceremony on TV)

Uganda might be another example, and there’s more.

“Africa didn’t begin de-colonization until the 1990’s so they are still really new to democracy.” :confounded: !? That’s wrong. Ever heard of Panafricanism? Or people like Kwame Nkrumah? It was happening in the 1950’s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonisation_of_Africa

I’m not misrepresenting your claims, as it’s not a strawman to point out things you actually do.

Just, like I figured you would, you made yet another thread wherein you proceed to argue that Xe’ra was justified and try to drag on Illidan. That, plus the week you’ve spent going back and forth with others in this thread really does show that such conduct is really more of a you thing.

You should know that my definition is the correct one because every time you’ve tried to go back and forth correcting me on the proper definition/use of a word, you’ve been wrong every time.

Because you’re so prone to being passive aggressive, I’ll give you a very direct direction to as to avoid confusion. Type “I don’t desire to continue this discussion with you. I’m not responding to you anymore.” and then actually doing that. If indeed, that is your wish.

Blizzard’s increasingly tendency to have the Alliance be a bunch of passive peaceniks sitting around doing nothing until the Horde decides to spark conflict by turning into the very image of the industrialized dark empire they were originally meant to subvert is what’s been messing the story over. It’s moving away from exploring the cultural and political landscape of the world hasn’t helped either.

Lack of continuity and huge retcons, zigzagging characters have always been a thing in Blizzard and are the lesser of its writing troubles. The lore has always been a mess. That’s not what’s been screwing it over lately.

Indeed, it doesn’t show us what all Xe’ra could be planning before she springs it on us. You’re wrong in that it doesn’t show prior intent, as it clearly shows her jumping straight to nonconsensual transmogrification. Asking question, then doing what you wanted to do without letting the other party even answer shows prior intent and disregard for consent.

You repeatedly argued the fact Onslaught operated in Northrend and not in Lordaeron as evidence of them refuting the Crusade, when in reality, it’s a continuation of it. The use of Death Knights is the only demonstrable difference, but as shown, the Crusade did use Shadow Magic and even when most of its members became Undead themselves, they continued their fighting. We don’t see them communicate with anyone, but considering they had an established harbor and had to resupply and get in recruits it’s not like they were cut off. I’m glad you’re finally acknowledging that there still exist Crusaders to be contacted back in Lordaeron.

You already admitted to viewing Blizzard’s treatment off the Light as both an extension of their views on religion in general- and your religion in particular, as well as an extension of society’s disrespect for institutions of authority. You tried to make the argument supporting Turalyon’s obedience to Xe’ra by asking what I would do if the state imprisons our loved ones.

You continued to both simultaneously argue that Xe’ra was in the right, Turalyon was right to support her, and how you wouldn’t defy authority that locked up your family. All because you view such things as “tough but fair” and consider the very existence of people with authority over us, even when it’s wrong, to be necessary.

My refusal to abide unjust acts by the state is not the result of my cousin’s situation. It predates it by some time. I’ve already defied unjust authority on the behalf of strangers, so doing it for family is not a huge ask.

And you keep making the same arguments in favor of unquestioning obedience to the state in your other discussions in this thread.

I’m not going to stop tell the truth just because you want to lie.

Alleria consorted with the Locus Walker to help find a way to fight the Legion, who she’d already heard ahead of time was able to use the Void. Xe’ra, who hates the void, told her that she’d never work with it because Xe’ra has such and dislike of the Void she didn’t even let it be known that nauru enter a Void state as part of their cycle because that would tie her to it in some way. When Alleria discovered the Locus Walker potentially made a new ally in the fight against the Legion and later used the Void to save lives, Xe’ra was so angry that she used the Void that she imprisoned her for an indeterminate time/life, which is an unjust punishment because Xe’ra failed to show what harm Alleria did or crime she broke.

Ignorance is not bad. Nobody knows everything. Your issue is a general lack of desire to educate yourself on things when you’re able. Rather than actual research to learn basic facts about the things you’re talking about, you demand evidence they exist, and then want to argue them because they don’t match your preestablished conceptions- which are generally wrong.

Also, in Vanilla, we were tasked with stopping the revival of Hakkar by his Voodoo wielding allies, lest they drench the world in a new era of bloodshed. Then during Rise of the Zandalari in Cataclysm, we had to do it again. And then in Battle for Azeroth, we had to try and stop the Blood Trolls allied with Zul from reviving another ‘blood loa’ in the form of G’huun. And it was the loa Mueh’zala allied with the Jailer that helped put BfA and Shadowlands into action.

So, in addition to the fact that Blizzard has indeed portrayed some Shamans as antagonistic, we’ve also encountered antagonistic elementals who are just doing what elementals do to the extreme -which isn’t necessarily in the best for Azerothians and result in lots of death. So we have to fight against them without all elementals being cast as evil. So giving the Light the same treatment is not an attack on religion or casting the entirety of the Light and all nauru as evil either.

You’re straight up ignoring the fact that their black and white stories have been even worse and black and white stories in general are even more cliche while presenting poorly thought out versions as an alternative. You’re arguing against it in a very passive aggressive manner.

That you keep drawing comparisons between the Scarlets and those groups by leaving out the more obvious parallels to the Christian Crusades and making yet another in a long line of inaccurate/false statements makes it altogether clear you don’t really know much about them even as you keep trying to draw such comparisons.

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