Mythic and M+ all need AI parties as an option. This community is unfortunately too toxic to sustain group play as the only mode of gear progression into mythic tracking, and maintain a decent playing population at the same time.
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This is the sad reality.
Tanks are ultimately the leaders of the party, so when things go wrong, they often get blamed for it, go too slow and people lose patience, and likely start ninja-pulling, which we all know happened way too often in N and H.
Tanks have the most responsibility next to the healers, but like i said, theyre the one leading the party at the end, nothing can happened or progress without them.
That amount of responsibility on its own can be stressful, and significantly worsened if you get treated poorly over any mistake.
So yeah, no wonder tanking isnt that popular compared to the other 2(3) roles, and why a lot of them prefer pre-mades with people they know.
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Nothing to do with anything. Tanks are still stronger than healers, and people play heals still.
I don’t want to be that guy but I have been tanking all 8 mythic 0s for 3 day straight and I make my own group with the ( Chill Vibe Learning) as title and never once had a toxic group or someone being mad.
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The tank dps trinket nerf was warranted in some way but also a cause of other design problems. Versatility shouldn’t be a thing in pve and tanks end up stacking it more so their trinkets do more damage and then tank damage scaling is non-existent which means cantrip effects become their top damage.
We tried to have a discussion about it on the beta thread which we got 2 answers but communication right now seems rough.
Hmm ok well maybe that’s the key. I don’t know if there’s a lot of those groups though. Might be hard to find them and fill them.
I love tanking I have 2 pallys 3 DH and 2 War all tanks What I dont like doing is tanking for random people in LFG. I made the mistake of tanking LFR other night I left after 3rd wipe on 2nd boss cuz people couldn’t kill adds. I dont like to put trust in people that lick windows and eat tide pods. Also I cant stand people pulling for me
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I haven’t slept well, no energy for something that can be intense. 
Yeah they are in Delves.
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Takes longer to fill but like I said, I hate toxicity so I try to make sure I avoid it at all cost. I don’t play video games to be yelled at. I’m 34 years old and I’m just trying to vibe! Might be harder to make your own group if your a dps tho, I never tried
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False.
The only “tank shortage” in the game is for 5-man pugs.
Every other part of the game, the unwelcome mat is out for tanks:
- Looking for a guild? They don’t need tanks.
- Want to join a raid team? They don’t need tanks.
- Want to arena? They don’t need tanks, if a tank spec is accidentally good in arena, Blizzard nerfs it.
- Want to do rated battlegrounds? They need 1 tank tops, if that.
- Want to do world content? It’s gonna take forever. Tanks not needed. The hunter/warlock pets will spam-taunt everything off you, which is super annoying.
- Want to quest? It’s faster if you switch to your DPS spec.
The entire game is designed around discouraging people from tanking.
EXCEPT for 5-man pugging. And not even just 5-mans. Nope, just 5-man pugging.
And it has always been that way.
“Tank shortage” indeed. 
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I was a tank main in DF and god there was a lot of this in PuGs.
Tho it was really a 1/50 experience I would say the community has treated me very well back in my tank days.
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This needs to be pinned. It’s the sad reality! Tanks aren’t needed anywhere but Premade 5-mans groups or LFD
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It might just be one of my favourite spells in the game, pretty well always super useful.
Something wailing on your squishy ranged DPS? Yoink, no it’s not.
Something sitting back safely casting spells? Yoink, no it’s not.
That goes for both PvP and PvE.
I guess this probably is the main issue.
Especially since PvP isn’t like PvE. In PvE there’s the expectation that you have a tank and that tank has a role to fill - which isn’t the case for PvP.
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Maybe they should make tank gameplay feel more like dps and less spammy and annoying.
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I’ll prolly start tanking on my BDK after they buff Sanlayn since I run it. They’re also nerfing the tankiness of Deathbringer kinda putting it far below Sanlayn for me.
And from what I experienced the heals queue is 2nd in terms of waiting… I wait 2-5 mins as healer on normals and heroics sometimes.
There’s more healers than tanks right now…
It always was the case.
That will never change because playing tank means dealing with the absolute worst scum imaginable.
Tank shortage for the only area of the game that needs people to be playing tanks is still a tank shortage.
Tanks are always needed. Always have been needed. Just because established content or, for all intents and purposes, PvP, don’t need tanks, doesn’t make them any less in demand.
PuG content will always need tanks and always has because of the community and how they treat them, whether directly or indirectly.