Hey everyone
Warning: This thread will be quite large with plenty of pictures. For a short version of this thread, I made a twitter post with pictures, so if lots of words is too much, feel free to check out my twitter post: https://twitter.com/TheLostCodex/status/1507112044440559627
Full imgur gallery: https://imgur.com/a/p6VOfKh
My 9.2.5 Wish:
After seeing all of the QoL changes that came with 9.1.5, I have high hopes for the patch!
One of my favorite features in the 9.1.5 patch was the addition of the Legion Timewalking vendor and after seeing what the vendor offered, I pray that the other Timewalking vendors will be updated.
Unlike the Legion Timewalking Vendor, every other TW vendor from Burning Crusade to Warlords offers a very lack-lustre selection of gear and weapons.
Why is it lack-lustre?
Because the gear represented on the Timewalking Vendors is gear that not only still exists currently in game, but gear that can be bought for gold (weâre talking Transmog equivalence here). None of the weapons or armor from Timewalking Vendors from BC - WoD are unique - theyâre just Timewarped versions of gear from those expansions.
Example: Here we see Timewalking Gear on the left and the exact same items down to the model sold for gold (use to be Badges of Justice) on the right (with the obvious difference being the scaled item level/stats)
So why does this matter? Because the Legion Timewalking Vendor doesnât follow the paradigm of the past vendors. Whichever developer was tasked with making this vendor and the rewards - a super well forking job done to them and a thousand years of good luck to them as well!
Unlike WoD Timewalking, which simply takes different Rare-drops from across Draenor and slaps it up on a vendor, Legion Timewalking gives us all new items.
Cloth/Leather pieces were given an unused color from the Legion Dungeon sets and while Mail pieces received the short end of the stick (due to their sets having all their colors in game), plate was the big winner.
Not only was the plate pieces given the appearance of the unused Blackrook Hold armor, but a whole damn ensemble was added for the missing pieces!
And then we have the weapons! Since Legion obviously didnât have a whole lot of weapon rewards, the models used were mostly all NPC only weapons, seen on the Nightborne in Suramar - something much of the community had been asking for since Legion Alpha!
And the cherry on the cake with this vendor? The Aegis of Aggramar because why the hell not. A badge-sink for a cool, cosmetic offhand is something Timewalking had never done and I hope this whole vendor sets a new path for future (and past) Timewalking vendors!
What Could be:
Imagine if instead of the Timewalking vendors just having old Badge of Justice or rare-drop gear slapped with the Time Warped tag, instead the armor/weapons were actually unused assets from that era. Light knows there are literally thousands of unused weapons, armor and mounts just sitting the in the files - so why not use them?
Following in the same pattern as the Legion TW VendorâŚ
New Burning Crusade TW Ideas:
- Incomplete/Unused Dungeon Sets: We see throughout TBC Dungeons, all sorts of âVanilla Dungeon recolorsâ (Purple Judgement, for example) being slapped on the loot tables, so why not follow that same pattern?
- Draenei NPC guard armor: Only used by Draenei NPCâs (recolor of Paladin Tier 4), some of these pieces are available through questing but things like the shoulders and boots are not.
- Sunwell Assets: As is the case with every raid, the Sunwell has a plethora of unused Blood Elven colored weapons that just never got used (because Sunwell had one difficulty level) so what not a perfect way than to slap them up on a TW Vendor!
- Unused Tabards: Every expansion has unused tabards and Time Walking really seems like the perfect way to use old unused NPC tabards!
New Wrath Timewalking Ideas:
- The amount of unused weapons from Wrath of the Lich King expansion is enough to make even the Lich King cry. From Troll weapons to Vrykul weapons to TONS of Coliseum/Argent Tourney Weapons, I could literally fill the whole thread with every unused color/asset.
- Caverns of Time Stratholme also had a ton of unused colors, including the iconic Lordaeron shield. Seeing some of these colors go unused for over ten years just feels bad - but tying them to Wrath Timewalking a few times a year? That would be fun to work towards!
- Unused Tabards: Hand of Vengeance Forsaken Tabard and the Alliance Expedition Tabard (Horde variant got added with Exileâs Reach intro, but not moggable)
New Cataclysm TW Ideas
- Incomplete leveling sets: One of my favorite things about Cataclysm was all the leveling sets given to the old 10-60 leveling experience. Unfortunately, so many of them remain incomplete to this day and Iâd love to see some of them completed.
- Deathwings Mace: This amazing weapon that never saw the light of day. Never got to see him wield it even once. May as well slap it on a vendor for us players!
- Unused Raid/PVP Colors: Cataclysm, like Wrath, has a high volume of unused Raid/PVP colors just sitting in the files. BFA was great by adding many of these to Island Expedition, but many remain!
- Tabards: Unused Reliquary and Explorerâs League Tabards - wouldâve made perfect Archaeology Tabards, but Timewalking works! Archaeologists are Timewalkers with shovels!
New Mists of Pandaria TW Ideas:
- Wandering Isle Gear: Once White/common gear becomes Transmoggable next expansion, seeing what colors from the HUGE asset list of Starting Pandaren gear are not currently used and adding those to a Timewalking Vendor would be fantastic. This picture below just shows you how many assets are unmoggable from this one kit.
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Mogu Weapons: MoP saw a Mogu mace added and BFA added an unused axe, but thereâs still plenty of Mogu assets unused - why not add them all in a single arsenal?
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Kind of Mogu related: People may remember the Harmonic Mallet that appeared in 5.1, wielded by Anduin during his confrontation with Garrosh. The mallet never appears again soâŚwhy not use it!
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Shado-Pan Armor: We have the wicked Shado-Pan head piece but none of the matching armor? Iâd absolutely lose my mind if 2 ensembles were added - one gold and one silver- with a robe/tunic version for the set thatâs been unobtainable for nearly 10 years now!
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Unused Tabards: Timewalking TabardâŚneed I say more? Also the crafting Pandaren Tabard (an old concept for a reputation that never made it to live) and an âPandaren Elderâ Tabard with a cool design.
New Warlords of Draenor Ideas:
- Now, Iâm usually against wielding big iconic weapons (especially if their wielders are very much alive) but after the Aegis of Aggramar & Artifact system, screw it.
Add an Arsenal called âArsenal of the Warlordsâ which features Gulâdan, Nerâzhul and Kilroggâs staff and Gorehowl in glorious HD.
- WoD had a lot of gear that came in unused colors. For some, it was the Draenor Crafting gear, for other sets it was raiding sets. In the case of our favorite Draenei lady, Yrel even had some unique âYrel-onlyâ sets while she âleveled upâ with Alliance players - and seeing as she wound up wearing Exarch gear, why not put her gear to good use!
- Frostwolf Cosmetic Gear: It still pisses me off that to this day, the Frostwolf Clan armor is leather only. A clan full of Warriors, Shamans and Hunters yet their Clan outfit is Leather? For all those Frostwolf Druids and Monks and Demon Hunters and Rogues, right?
- Unused Tabards: You may notice during your Timewalking this week in Auchindoun that some of the NPCâs wear a cool Tabard that we canât get! In addition, thereâs a Korâkron Tabard from Siege of Orgrimmar (MoP, I know) and a few Iron Horde Tabards that would be great to add to the collection!
- Mounts: I could spam a thousand unused mount skins but instead Iâll just show off the ones I chose for my twitter post. Thereâs an enormous amount of unused mounts from TBC through Shadowlands that could be added and seeing as how people are probably looking for a Badge sink, new Timewalking mounts with reskins would be a great add!
Again, this is just an idea/plea thread for 9.2.5 or even 10.0.
As it stands, the BC, Wrath, Cata, Mists and WoD Timewalking Vendor bring absolutely nothing new to the game with the exception of their toys/mounts! But the gear, which mainly serves to be cheap catch up gear (depending on the patch cycle) is TW-cloned gear found elsewhere in the game. What a perfect opportunity to use the Legion Timewalking Vendor as a template and revamp every single Vendor with a kickass collection of unused armor tints, ensembles/arsenals, and dope pricey weapon/cosmetic offhands
Feel free to jot more ideas below!
Remember, the idea isnât to just wish up random rewards but rather make use of the thousands of unused assets sitting the files. Reskins for Timewalking arenât bad, especially if weâve never had them as players!
