I never understood these bloody multi-tiered upgrades. When there was just honor gear and conquest gear…playing rated just meant that you got the gear faster…and that’s fine as far as I’m concerned. It’s not like there was this huge difference. And in the next season, the previous season’s conquest gear become your honor gear. I have no idea why they decided to make it more complicated than that.
It’s almost like they’re purposely pooping on pvp and don’t want people to participate. Not too good for the future of the game…
It’s both. Both are issues. The gap between max ranked honor gear that you need to grind your butt off for and minimum 2100 rating is 26 item levels according to this updated list.
There should be no gap at all imo, but if they insist on a gap, it should be WAY smaller than that. The screenshot from Silverbolt should have been the MAXIMUM item level gap.
It requires too much honor (honor gear specifically, not conquest). I would typically skip the honor gear, except for maybe 1 piece I grab when I’m gearing up, now it probably makes sense to ignore it.
That doesn’t even account for the time to grind renown to open upgrades and legendary just to serve as fodder in entry level PvP for potentially weeks to get baseline gear.
The difference in honor gear and conquest gear in wod was 10 ilvls. But given the ilvl squish, that 10 ilvl difference should be 3 ilvls. 20 ilvls would be fail, especially given how long players are supposed to work to get their starter gear.
That is not true a casual team with 20 item levels more than a glad team will win or at least a 50/50, you obviously haven’t PvPd this season. Last night I went up against a 30k health premade and I was extremely drunk and still went 25-0, when the item level gap is that big it makes a huge difference.
Address the gap between the 229 honor gear that takes 50k+ honor to earn and the conquest gear. Honor gear needs to be viable and conquest gear needs to lose the rating locks.
I think some of the casuals are confused by the notes, some seem to be praising them even though there is still a 26 ilvl gap from honor to conquest gear. Blows my mind. I just want the game to be as amazing as it can be…
It feels like back when they were talking about PvP vendors and then conquest gear leading up to Shadowlands. Most of the posts I’m seeing that support this are only looking at rated changes and thinking, “This will be good for me. I want this, therefore it will be good for the game.” Although I can certainly imagine that low information casuals who aren’t looking hard might be misled.
This doesn’t resemble anything that was proposed by anyone. It benefits a small minority of PvPers, the rest not at all. You might be surprised how PvP will be circling the drain after the rest of the casuals leave.
The game cannot survive on the small number of elites that play. Forcing out casuals is inherently problematic.
