Go to your room son.
There really are not really those representations of night elves being the dominate party in WoW, in WC3 maybe. Also a faction leader killing red shirts is evidence of nothing, the hero units will always be stronger than grunts. Letâs look at like Cata to now.
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Night elves in Azshara are wiped out and lose the zone. The horde make huge gains in Ashenvale, even after the night elf questing to push them back a little. Horde get a cut scene too that shows the night elves to be extremely poor archers, while the orc is riding on a kodo shooting them all. The night elves win a few battles as you do in all questing, but they still lose ground overall in Ashenvale. They are losing there until late MoP where the horde splits to fight Garroshâs forces with the alliance, the night elf gains are never portrayed or shown in game.
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Wolfheart: Night elves are getting out maneuverer and ambushed in Ashenvale at night by orcs. They canât hear shredders in the forest, they got ambushed by a shredder while listening carefully. They had to get the rest of the alliance to help them and they were still going to lose without Varian and the Worgen. The night elves were portrayed as extremely weak in that book.
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MoP: Here we get to see Tyrande doing something finally, she cornered some orc forces, however Blizzard said Tyrande was too incompetent to command her own forces and she needed Varian there to set up traps and lure out the orcs or her forces would have been wiped out, because again the night elves are so weak.
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MoP: The night elves get the divine bell, the sentinels there are all easily wiped out by a blade master and the PC, then the boss sentinel tell the you were the bell is. So then the horde easily sneak into Darnassus and steal the bell, because again the night elves are portrayed as extremely incompetent and canât even guard their own city.
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MoP: After SoO the horde leave Ashenvale because of the treaty, so we donât get to see the night elves taking it back or ever being portrayed as stronger.
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WoD: Nothing much happens here with the night elves. The one night elf warden goes crazy and evil because of that Gulâdan orb.
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Legion: Not really much faction stuff. Malfurion gets kidnapped and Tyrande has the meme voice acting in Velâshara, then the night elves help take back Suramar only to have the nightborne turn around and help the horde try to wipe out the night elves in BfA.
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BfA: Obviously the night elves lose massively, lose Ashenvale, Darkshore and Teldrassil. Malfurion was really the main reason they lasted so long against the horde, especially in the in game questing where the night elves were portrayed as so weak that blood elf rogue was laughing about how easy it was to wipe out a city with just him and you.
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BfA: 8.1. Here is where we get to see Maiev and shandris killing a bunch of red shirts so Tyrande get the night warrior power. Then Tyrande freezes the base with those power and then Malfurion saves her from the shredders. Then Malfurion again has to save the night warrior from Nathanos. Nathanos succeeds against both Malfurion and Tyrande and raises the night elves, and now has a bunch of loyal undead night elves that wanted to work to wipe out the rest of their own people.
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BfA: Darkshore Warfront, itâs just a back and forth. You donât find out who wins until after the cease fire is made. After 8.1 the night elves are absent from the game
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Then obviously overall we have the night warrior that continually accomplishes nothing and fails to prevent the bad guys from doing what they want. Even after the story of 8.1 she didnât participate in the warfront so we donât even know what she was doing.
The night elves are usually portrayed as victims and punching bags. They will usually just have someone like Malfurion with his super powers carrying them because without those the night elves are usually too weak to defend themselves. You have in the shattering the sentinels being skinned alive, and the druids (tauren druids too) being wiped out to try to start a war, the night elves are never portrayed as strong or competent, just victims here as well. Even the burning of Teldrassil was just to make Saurfang sad and to get Anduin to do something, that is why the night elves were pretty much ignored afterwards outside of the warfront. Night warrior Tyrande didnât even show up to fight Sylvanas in 8.2.5 and she wasnât there to do anything against Azshara who was basically her foe for like the last 20 years.
Sure there could be something you are thinking about other than Malfurion killing a few red shirts that shows the night elves (not Malfurion) as the dominating party, but itâs very rare, their overall representation since at least Cata has been as victims and punching bags with few if any moments of their own.
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Just wanna quickly pop in and say I love that this complete lie still gets repeated so that people can complain about a book theyâve clearly never read.
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Thatâs literally what happens, the male sentinel hears something and they move in closer to find the gigantic shredding operation tearing up the forest they didnât notice was going on in ashenvale, then they getting attacked by a shredder.
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âBy Elune!â gasped Xanon. âThis is worse than I imagined!â
âWe must leave!â returned Haldrissa, beginning to back away. The two Sentinels, their eyes ever on the horror, retreated, heading for the area where they had left their mounts.
The wind shifted direction again. A thick smell of fuel and steam assailed Haldrissa from their left.
âBeware!â she cried, shoving Xanon away from that direction.
The shredder came crashing through the trees and brush, the metallic claws ripping away branches that blocked the path. High-pitched maniacal laughter cut above the sound of spinning blades. With a deathâshead grin, the goblin adjusted the levers.
The blades came at Haldrissa. She was forced to dodge toward her blind side and thus stumbled. The blades just barely grazed her shoulder. However, despite that and the fact that Haldrissa wore
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WTB Night Elves winning something onscreen 200k g - pst for more info.
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Itâs really sad when you think about it. A bunch of worgen/gilneans plus the 7th legion helping Ivars pack outside managed to tackle the Forsaken army by themselves and push them out of gilneas, but the Kaldorei continue to get wrecked in their own forests 
Thank you for this.
Every once in a while you really do have to go back and recount a) how long this has been going on, and b) how incessant this treatment has been - particularly given the rather annoying habit on the part of people to try to minimize things on the basis of current events only.
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That isnât an ambush.
Oh yeah for sure, people like to forget or omit a lot of what happened to the night elves, and that wasnât even all of it. But if you liked the night elves these things just always continue to add up in your mind how badly they are usually portrayed, even if once in a while a dev will say âthe night elves are strongâ instead of showing it in game.
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They discover a shredder operation in the forest (because they do hear it, thatâs how they discover it lol) and then leave and a shredder is in their way so they have to fight it. Thereâs no ambush, a shredder does not sneak up on them.
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How does, what amounts to essentially a giant mechanized chainsaw that belches gas sneak anyway? Like, how does that even work?
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It got the drop on them after they were there to carefully observe and she was hit in the shoulder by the shredder.
I added the passage. But here it is again, they were surpised by the Shredder that found them out and she was hit.
The shredder came crashing through the trees and brush, the metallic claws ripping away branches that blocked the path. High-pitched maniacal laughter cut above the sound of spinning blades. With a deathâshead grin, the goblin adjusted the levers.
The blades came at Haldrissa. She was forced to dodge toward her blind side and thus stumbled. The blades just barely grazed her shoulder. However, despite that and the fact that Haldrissa wore plate armor, the shredder was still able to cut through the metal and rip a tiny but painful gash in her flesh.
It shouldnât have even been able to get close to night elves who are hiding in a forest literally carefully observing. If a shredder can surprise them, the portrayal is very bad.
Same way the night elves were unable to fight in Ashenvale at night against orcs. You need to ask Knaak.
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You park it in the bushes and turn it off and hope nobody notices youâve parked an illegal spot while youâre out at the beach, as to avoid paying the parking fee.
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It doesnât.
âNight Elves find massive, incredibly loud shredder operation, and donât pinpoint the location of a 15th shredder like some sort of sonar bat creature, instead detecting it by smell, therefore they are deaf idiots somehowâ is basically the complaint.
Mara literally cuts off the paragraph immediately before where they talk about hearing the sound of oncoming shredders.
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Iâm imagining a bunch of rangers quietly following tracks and looking at broken branches and doing other tracker-y things while somehow missing the giant gas belching mecha-suit in the foreground revving up itâs chainsaw due to being too focused.
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Again you are making things up. The point is that there was a large shredding operation they were observing and they got ambushed by a shredder while observing it. It was the closest Shredder to them as well and it gets the jump on them.
Before we continue, just wanna apologize to you and tewdee for being an moron to you two that one day. Anyway, while the NE fans do have legitimate complaints, it does feel like they will take the most minute thing and blow it up to apocalyptic portions.
Or is that just me?
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Iâm just going to note this:
Mara presented an eleven bullet-point list depicting a pattern that has been ongoing since 2010, which isnât even comprehensive, but displays the pattern that demonstrates the point.
The reaction to this list is to argue about the interpretation of a detail included in one of these bullets - and this likely will be what the conversation consists of for the next twenty-five posts.
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Thatâs like standing on some train tracks and not noticing the train heading your way thoughâŚlike youâll hear it for miles
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They were scouting to see how many were at the Warsong Lumber Camp.
They counted a couple, and then realized it was six and when they went to engage realized it was much more than six and decided theyâd leave and go report back on their findings. A shredder noticed them on the way back and attacked them. Which they killed by knocking a tree on it and crushing the goblin making it look like an accident to not draw unwanted attention.
Trying to make it seem like it was an ambush is a huge stretch.