So basically its a pov thing. Got it, anyway how is this relevant to any lore and story discussion?
If you care to scroll up or follow the quotes:
- I brought up how Cult of Forgotten Shadow was retconâd to be Not The Forsaken Religion, and Natalie Seline is now human; this was in response to an earlier conversation about how Factions arenât allowed their strengths in Nu Blizzard
- Faranoth brought up making her undead
- I brought up how sheâs Black now, and I would not like to undo this change because no Forsaken options include âBlack Phenotypeâ stuff like Human customizations. Theyâd have to add Human customization to the Forsaken, or at least give her undead eyes
- Faranoth didnât know they had done this change, and think yes theyâd have to make her âmore undeadâ
- You barged in to be argumentative against me for the umpteenth time without reading the conversation you were forcibly engaging in
- Here we are
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meant more in regards to the elune stuff.
Well if you scroll up just a bit beyond the aforementioned scrolling, you would see that another topic was that the Alliance has more ties to more Cosmic Forces than the Horde:
The Void bit is how we got to Cult of Forgotten Shadows, which is how we got to Natalie Seline.
Kevin Bacon!
/I win?
It seems like Elune is actually Winter Queenâs âyoungerâ sister even.
(*From Korean translation of âsisterâs petâ in Ysera rebirth cinematic.)
Chances of Elune being at different tier are now rather low I think.
/sigh
They âdefinitivelyâ ruined the world I loved.
Itâs possible âtrue godsâ are simply those without creators. This would be the Void Lords and the presumed Light Lords. The rest of WoWâs deities, and the forces along with them, came to be after the Light/Void. In fact, I think the first ones are literally just that; the first beings to arise when the dust settled. The firstborn.
It does feel like they are putting her on the same level as an eternal one rather than a first one⌠which is kinda horrible cause honestly they are all eternally useless. It be pretty damn disappointing if they put her on the same level as a titan.
Nah Danuser already confirmed that the First Ones set up Light/Void.
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Get Danasuer away from the narrative wheel!
You talk as if the orc fantasy is well and intact, when itâs actually been crumbling since WoD with BfA finally dealing the final blows, to them and rest of the Horde.
P.S. I donât know if youâre one of those Russians who donât speak a lick of English, or if you proof-read your posts, but it makes me happy how far tech has come with nearly completely eliminating the language barrier.
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This, WoD absolutely destroyed orc fantasy with a people who where tricked by demons into becoming killing machines, instead they didnât need much convincing to do it to begin with.
Geeze Iâm sounding like a Nelf poster lol, but it is true.
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As Iâve said in another thread, it added context as to why theyâre so violent.
Ogres want to enslave or kill them.
Primals want to zombify them.
Arrakoa want to burn them.
Everything else wants to eat or kill them.
Theyâre violent out of necessity.
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They where violent in terms of survival, not genocidal though.
Nah, originally the âorcish bloodlustâ was due to demonic corruption. WoD retconâd it so the bloodlust is actually just an inherent orcish genetic trait, inescapable.
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Exactly, plus Kilâjaedan originally never chose them for their violent nature that WoD portrayed and only picked them because the Draenei would not suspect the legion and run away like they always did. So he intended to turn them into perfect killing machines.
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They never organized a large enough army to wipe out their enemies.
Even without the bloodlust, they would still be fighting against the Breakers, Primals, and Arrakoa.
If the orcs waged war against everyone but the humans and draenei, would it still be a problem?
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What do you mean by this? That the legion never organized a large enough army? Or the orcs? Cause the orcs after being filled with demonic blood definitely formed a large enough army, because they almost killed every Draenei only the ones with Velen escaped due to the noble sacrifice of a few to sell that they where all dead.
Or do you mean the legion never organized a large enough army every time they found the Draenei? Cause they definitely had the numbers the Draenei where just quick enough to escape before the legion could do anything.
Yes but the narrative has shifted from âsurvivor indigenous race with warrior culture due to survival, later corrupted by demons to be extra violentâ to âalien construct race with warrior culture due to survival and also inherent tendencies of violenceâ
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I hadnât considered that point. However, Iâm bargaining for the future narrative, so the current integrity of the fantasy doesnât matter. We will be eternal vagabonds in the streets of Stormgrad, and the orcs will be eternal gladiators, slaying themselves to repent.
Yes, I donât speak English at all. Automatic translators.
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