9.1 ptr changes!

nothing for shaman.

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…it’s barely been like what? An hour?

There’s certainly more to come. Calm down.

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nothing is listed on blizzard’s blue post.

i would give data miners time but even blizzard hasnt listed any changes, thats what worries me.

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The changes we desperately needed!

  • Imbue your off-hand weapon with the element of Fire for 60 min, causing each of your off-hand attacks to deal [ 2.6% of Attack Power or 1 ] additional Fire damage.

Healing Tide Totem’s health is increased by 150% and heals for 50% more each time it pulses. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. Requires Shaman. Requires level

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They are rolling things out in phases it seems. I am okay with them taking their time with elemental shaman especially.

Inflating our numbers after that failed attempt to fix some of our issues in beta is not fooling anyone.

We still have multiple unused talents in both PVP and PVE, a mastery that is disgraceful since it has been avoided by players for 3 expansions straight, and just being very unfun to play against in pvp due to a few gimmicks that are destined for a nerf.

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Do you have a blue post saying its being released in phases? Thats seems unusual for blizz.

All PTR builds release in phases? You new here?

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There will be a 9.1.5 eventually, and a 9.2 after that but its unrealistic that there will be major changes between 9.1 and then

The patch notes are just for what was deployed today.

They’ll be updated every few days, or weekly at most.

The changes we did get are flametongue being applied to all attacks (which is pretty much a flat 3% dmg increase), and a change to our torghast lava lash power, that COULD mean we’re going to get it as a legendary power. 500% dmg and spread flame shock anyone?

Those things aren’t in the notes, they aren’t ready to test those things yet, and I’m sure a LOT more will come.

They’re only about 10% of the way through balancing and class changes if you read the notes.

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The change to uncategorized could mean that it’s going to become a legendary power… I hope so! But the pessimist in me thinks that it was just too much fun so it’s being removed entirely.

a lot of specs desesperatly need to get some talents made baseline, for example, whats the point in using lightning shield as ele, it has no synergy and brings nothing except if you take static discharge who doesn’t do much, just make the talent baseline and at least we could use it while moving, same with havoc dh and first blood

As a veteran shaman I can say that we are the last class to be looked at, never look at the first ptr notes expecting us to be in it. In a few weeks we’ll see something probably.

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This was only a tooltip update, Flametongue already had this functionality - so no %increase.

You mean the completely necessary buffs to our extremely underwhelming AoE?

Do not expect talent overhauls mid-expansion.

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except they did that in the past like with elemental in bfa, they have the money, they just don’t want to put the ressources to do it

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This isn’t an actual change. This is currently how flame tongue has been working, and is just clearing up the tooltip.

Tiqqle did testing on flame tongue a while back as did some others to find that flame tongue was being imbued on both hands from the off-hand.

…once again, do not expect talent overhauls mid-expansion.

This is a very dull argument, best left in GD.

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And they did changes to elemental talents in bfa, you have no points, same with second quoting

They have stated that they will not be doing big overhauls mid expansion and that they don’t want to drastically change how classes perform.

So we may get a couple of minor changes to talents. 1 may get reworked or replaced. But we’re not getting an overhaul til 10.0, wish all you want.

there is a big difference between swapping some useless or buffing the said useless talents and a complete overhaul for a spec

You’re not helping yourself out here.

You arguing that they did talent overhauls before, so they can do them again, and when told that they’re not going to do overhauls because they’ve literally told us as much, you argue that swapping something useless is not a talent overhaul. Make up your mind man.

As I already stated, it’s quite possible that they’ll rework 1 or 2 talents, maybe replace one. But their focus is going to be on borrowed power, changes to legendaries, conduits, covenant abilities, gear etc…

We’re not getting anything major from talents at all. And for the record, Lightning Shield is useless for ALL specs, not just Elemental.