Unironically I want to catch all the armor arm battle pets, cause Bates has a suit of armor he possesses sometimes and let me tell you the SHENANIGAN POTENTIAL of having one of those battle pets to pull out and pet mirror the appearance of if his armor gets beat up and just. Hopping around in a single armored arm would be. Great. Amazing.
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Omg please do this I believe in you.
I might have too copy this idea with one of the skeleton hand pets on one of my undead characters
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You know Warcraftâs version of hell is pretty lame. Ok, we have a little bit of lava in places and some spikes and lots and lots of chainsâŚwhere are the real punishments? Whereâs the boiling blood or constant violent winds? No betrayers eternally frozen in ice or sands of fire and raining lava? CâmonâŚ
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those are all in torghast although i donât think they do sin-specific torture there, itâs more like a âone gibbet fits allâ kind of policy
I mean, if weâre being genuinely honest with ourselves another 6 months of repetitive daily quests in Korthia is its own form of punishment.
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this expansion is the actual hell
youve been duped into believing its hell for the characters.
its hell for you.
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Jokes on them Iâve been pretty much unsubbed since like December. Chonga is in limbo not Shadowblands
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serious answer: she says âYou were loyal, once.â
thatâs it.
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theory 1: this story was written exclusively for the wow writing team and steve danuser. they are essentially writing what they think is cool, and damn everyone else.
theory 2: this story was written exclusively for sylvanas windrunner. it would hurt her feelings if she ever failed, and she must be protected at all costs.
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You keep up that sass and the Jailor will give you a paddling.
the paddlingâŚ
of domination
actually you know what never mind
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Thatâs not happening. Most of her dramatic pauses in the cinematics are already setting her up to be a tragic, somewhat sympathetic figure - someone whose anger has blinded her to the mistakes sheâs made and is only now coming to understand.
Enjoy your time off, in any event.
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oops my anger blinded me so I killed a lot of people ;(((
ill say sorry and itâll be good ;)))))
i think saying sorry for killing even one person isnât a way to get off of being for sentenced for murder, but what the hell do i know
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yeah, i donât really care how âsorryâ you are and how much âdoubtâ you had, if you burnt hundreds of children to death and knowingly set them to a plane of eternal torture then you deserve death.
there are things you canât be âredeemedâ from.
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those kids knew what they signed up for!!!
edit: this is a hot take and not my actual belief
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I think we have to define what a redemption story is.
If a redemption arc is a story where an evil character has a justification, even a somewhat good justification, for doing evil, than almost everyone but the most selfish, cruel, and malevolent villains in media has had a âredemption arc.â
To me, a redemption story requires more than that. For one, I think the character has to repent of their evil in some way, either explicitly or implicitly. They generally have to undo what theyâve done, or work to make it right.
To use a recent and well known example, I would say Thanos in the MCU fits in the former category, while Nebula fits in the latter.
I donât think Blizzard intends to go the latter route, but they may go the former, by explaining Sylvanasâ rationale and reasons. And I think many will interpret this as a âredemption arc.â
As for Elune sparing her, I hated it at first but Iâm wondering if perhaps itâs a Gandalf to Gollum thing. Elune intuits that this poor, wretched, damned creature still has a part to play. And/or was saving Tyrandeâs life.
I am, like most people, weary of Sylvanas. I kinda want it to be over. I think Blizzard has been dragging out her story long enough and I am ready for her to go on the back burner.
And so I think Blizzard has, through their method of storytelling and lack thereof, has made it so any sort of expansion on Sylvanas motivations will be called a âredemptionâ and any conclusion to this story, which has been baited out and focused far too much on âtwistsâ and secrets and speculation, will fall flat no matter how decent it ends up being.
Speculation is fun and a good mystery and an inscrutable evil are great storytelling methodsâŚbut only for so long. After at least 3 expansions and almost a half a decade of Sylvanas gloating about her âTRUE PLANâ, no one freaking cares anymore.
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I will agree with all of this, but I would also add if they had the ability at this point to tell a story, Iâd be happy to go 10 expacs and 20 years with Sylvanas.
*if it made sense and worked. It doesnât and that is why I am over it.
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Since everyoneâs allowed to be redeemed in this universe, that means Hell is meaningless because nobody goes there!
Except all the nameless innocents the people who get redeemed send there deliberately, that is.
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Truly, the only unreasonable expectation in WoW is that someone might be held accountable for their war crimes.
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My âOld Monk Yells At Cloudsâ is showing but for some reason part of what I find most egregious and offensive about the whole TRUE PLAN thing is that itâs somehow more important or worth telling than just⌠I donât know, dragging out the Burning Legion a little bit longer, the end of all things, the cosmos consuming flame that weâd seen the machinations of since 1994.
Everything since Sargeras was just an angry fart cloud in space that gets locked into Illidanâs âNobody asked you to stay here and do thisâ revenge throne for spankings has just felt so⌠hollow. The last hook they really had to make me kind of go okay, yeah, I can see it was the Old Gods which they then went âEr no, sorry, Void Lordsâ when they then went âEr no, sorry, uhm⌠the Nathrezim and Sylvanas are now more important / complex than that, and the Void isnât the true threat anymore either.â
croak
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