9.1 further disenfranchises non-competitive playerbase

It doesn’t reward you for failure. Getting a pathetic like 5% chance at a useful 210 or so ilvl piece that you need to upgrade with a zillion valor to just get to 220 is ridiculous and laughable.

Nobody with an IO below 500 even applies to 14s Einstein. But I’ve taken plenty of 900-1000 IO people who performed fine and we timed. You can check my IO if you don’t believe me.

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You get the 226 vault either way. Put your key in the trade chat. Say you’re willing to take literally anyone. The power is yours!

The game is literally no different than it ever was. People keep talking like some mythical solo progression system was removed from the game. It never existed and it never will. Better gear from harder content. This is the way. It’s always been the way.

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Actually you are.

Im a casual player and still raid two nights a week.

The sooner you realize that solo play is never going to award higher ilvl than group play in WoW the better off you will be.

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The trade chat that literally no one talks in. You must be unfamiliar with alliance on dead realms.

Anyway, I do my 14 every week on 3 alts. It’s a giant waste of life, but I do it for my welfare. And I can’t help but notice that each week, the number of groups dwindles. Can’t help but notice that my friends list is all grey. Can’t help but notice there are like 4 ppl running around Oribos ever.

Isn’t it possible this design paradigm just sucks? Hmm.

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I find the solo crowd just wanting free 226 gear. That’s all it boils down too.

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It was not a short period of time. That was changed in 7.2, iirc. Only then were catch up mechanics in place for the Order Hall tier ranks.

Yeah it’s not free. They pay $15 monthly. And they should get it. Big deal.

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Very well stated. It’s true that casual players have been leaving wow in droves due to raider focused development. The odd part 9s that some pretend raiders actually blame LFR, which has been ruined due to extremely low iLVL drops in LFR.

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This pretty much is consistent with my experience.

Even as a squishy cloth-wearer, ilvl 200 was fine for all world content except for those World Bosses that take a raid group anyway. Now, if I do something foolish or stupid, yes, I die no matter what my ilvl is, but that’s not the gear’s fault, or Blizzard’s fault, that’s on me.

My Guardian Druid is only at ilvl 184 and is essentially invincible in The Maw unless, again, I do something stupid.

At ilvl 200 I was easily able to do all content, solo, that I wished to. I’m currently at ilvl 212 and am blowing through all content that I wish to do.

I used to PuG M+ but I am done with that scene. Not because I can’t, but I just don’t find that fun. I raid with my guild, and I’ll do the occasional M+ with my guild. I may go up another point or two on my ilvl between now and whenever 9.1 releases but that’s about it. And I’m fine with that.

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You’re paying $15 a month to have the opportunity to do the content that awards 226 gear. If you consciously choose to not do high-end group PvP or PvE content, that’s your choice and you don’t deserve 226 gear that comes from that content.

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The power is yours for about 20 seconds until you find yourself in a 3 Deeps group with no participating tank/healer for the next hour or two.

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You’re paying for access to the game. Not guaranteed gear in the game.

Paying $15 a month doesn’t mean you get a set of 226 gear. If you want it you have to work for it.

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Only if casual content to you was getting your character into a raid as fast as possible. Yeah, it’s easier.

But now it’s bone dry for those of us not rushing to get into a raid with our alts.

I don’t want that, at all. Start actually reading posts before you comment on them, maybe?

That’s actually as far from the truth as one could be. The game’s constantly changing.

Leveling, for example, was progression play. Not anymore.
Professions used to provide progression paths. Not anymore.

Better gear from harder content should always be a thing. I won’t deny that. Harder content needs to remain attractive and rewarding for those that seek it.

But that doesn’t mean that everything below it has to be obsolete. They can raise the floor without lowering the ceiling. The game needs to feel better at the base. Because it currently does not.

Titanforging felt bad. Corruption felt bad. BFA was not a great expansion either. But at least it had meaningful attractors outside of group content.

Stygia, Anima, and Soul Ash are not meaningful replacements for the things that came before it.

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It rewards you in the vault. A 220 every week just for failing to time 10s? That’s very accessible. It’s so easy I can manage it and I’m terrible.

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Then you shouldn’t be complaining at all as solo play awards free 197 gear which is a hair behind normal raid gear and brain dead easy to get.

You won’t get anything higher then that.

No. I don’t choose to not be in a high end guild. I used to be in a high end guild. My server died. I don’t want to give Bobby any money, and I fell out of the rat race. It’s like that with many serious guilds these days. You need to have recent xp and have kept up.

Have Bobby give us free character xfers and faction changes. And anyway, there is no “choice” here. There are more people who would like to try to play in a mythic guild but are rejected or find the process of finding a guild and getting in too anxiety inducing to bother than there are people who just “choose” not to. You call it a choice. Really it isn’t one. Your post is another “get friendz lul”.

Explain this to me. Explain to me why the highest skilled players ought to be rewarded with better gear than everyone else if they are already also the highest skilled players. Doesn’t that just compound the discrepancy? Derp.

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You shouldn’t have to work in a videogame. It’s a game. Not a job.

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Gotta shoot your shot and ask in trade for those off meta tank/Heal classes that swear nobody will take them because everyone wants to be all mdi

There’s a thousand reasons not to do something. You say exclusion is a problem, and yet you have the power to somewhat alleviate that…today. Get in a key discord and offer your 14-16 key to players with low io’s. I suspect that before long you’ll learn why people rely on it.

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