It depends on the effort though. Comparing effort like doing world quests to clearing normal/heroic/mythic CN isn’t the same thing.
I consider myself a casual player because of juggling a 60 hour a week job and a family with playtime.
If I was still in my early twenties I’d probably be a HoF raider if not at least CE.
The news is that Blizzard is intentionally making the game worse for non-competitive players in virtually every facet of the game by making multiple bad systems even worse.
It’s hard to find time to commit. Biggest issue to me is the consistency. There are weeks I just don’t feel like playing at the scheduled times.
I don’t have a busy job or anything.
Not one person here says they are trash. Stop it already. I raid but heroic raiding is as high as I go and rarely step foot in a mythic plus dungeon or PVP. I’m about as non-competitive as it gets in this game.
If you want more cosmetic rewards like transmogs, mounts, pets, or whatever for doing easy mode content then fine. Have at it. You’ll get very little resistance on that around here. But the moment you start saying that top end/near top end gear should drop for doing solo content you’re going to get a lot of pushback because this an MMORPG, not a single player game. That gear drops from doing group content. Period. Always has always will. There are plenty of those out there including the upcoming Diablo 4. That seems to be more you guys’ speed.
How is it worse when they literally give you close to normal Raid gear without having to join a group for free? That’s never happened in previous expansions.
But don’t forget…there’s a shiny token available to let you buy your way out.
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I don’t know about others in the thread, but I want some form of steady gear progression, but yet I’m not asking for top level stuff.
197 is fine with me.
I just don’t want it draining precious anima that I need tens of thousands of for, for other stuff. And people go “you don’t have to get the upgrades” … maybe I don’t want to take 3 years to kill junk because of how the scaling works?
I mean, if Heroics yielded anima in some worthwhile amount or if you could use Valor instead of Anima to upgrade your covenant gear, that would be awesome. I would have almost no complaints, then.
Thanks. Highlight quality to Blizz to fix it. And surely, they know what’s wrong. Does quality means rewarding Mythic Raid quality loots on easy World Quest? How about mail delivery of Mythic Raid Quality loots straight to you for doing nothing? Is that how 10/10 Quality Gaming to you?
You do if you’re strictly pugging. People vet using IO. IO often ends up requiring you to grind it up one at a time – especially the later levels. Couple that with high probability of failure for pugging, and you’re looking at over a hundred attempts. Maybe 200.
But someone on the forum said that Ion is designing the game for raidloggers, that must mean that raids are the most important content!
Efforts something that’s relative though. I’m a CE (albeit not HoF) level player and even if I played casually, AotC and KSM would not be something I struggle to get.
Better players than me can and do get CE and go beyond KSM while playing more casually than I do.
I think everyone’s definition of a “casual” is naturally going to differ, but I heavily disagree with the widespread opinion on GD that somehow entering a Heroic (or even Mythic) raid or M+ run somehow strips you of your casual status.
You don’t have to grind every single level. Even when I was pugging my weekly I would get into most 14s after only timing a couple.
Or I would start my own group.
Agreed 100%. I basically do one key a week due to irl stuff which is why I only have 2 15s done. I just do whatever key I get and if it’s timed it’s timed
But its your choice to pug only. Not ours, not blizzards, yours. The solution is right in front of you. Join a guild.
I don’t know if it’s a valid argument but as a non competitive player if you just save up gold you can always buy a carry from a raiding guild.
(dm me on discord for great prices!)
Joining a guild is a responsibility.
One of the main reasons I haven’t joined one, is because of my IRL job, which I guarantee you is more important than a farking video game.
Joining a guild is like applying to a job, it’s something you have to do regardless if you feel like doing it, and if you miss too many raid nights because of RL obligations, mood, energy, etc, you’re done. You’re fired.
Not everybody can be there on X day at X time every week.
This is why I like content I can Q up for. I don’t know when I will have the mood/energy/opportunity to play WoW, and when I do have such, I want to hit a button and do content.
But no, Blizz decided to nuke all the rewards from Q-able content.
I see what you are saying. Anima is one way to increase your gear level, but you also upgrade it by getting renown 40. Once you complete that, you get level 194 gear from WQ and mission tables, including trinkets,rings and weapons. Just make sure you save all the covenant gear you get from story missions even if you get a temporarly higher gear piece. That way you don’t have to spend anima just to get the piece back so that you can upgrade.
You can also get a lot of anima doing LFR. Besides the occasional 180 plus gear drop you get pretty good chunks of anima with each boss you kill. And LFR is super easy compared to normal or heroic raids. That was how I leveled my two alts and they never set foot in a mythic plus, pvp or normal raid.
If you are taking about covenant gear, that is only 9 gear pieces that are intentionally set BELOW raiding gear, originally required timegating through renown requirements, and still require campaign completion and anima to fully upgrade. What, do you think that Blizzard auto-completes your covenant campaign and sends you thousands of anima in the mail “for free” now?
Come to think of it, you’re right that it has never been this bad before. In previous expansions, you could earn Normal or Heroic quality gear without joining a pre-organized group!
It cant have the same reward structure as other single player games, because it need to take into consideration pvp and dungeons/raid.
You already get near normal ilv just from questing and a legendary item from solo content, that is pretty good considering how easy and fast it is to get it.
I work an average of 65 hours a week, I’m on 24 hour call every 3 weeks.
The majority of guilds are very understanding
Only top guilds. Most are understanding and stuff happens. Sounds like you’re just making excuses now.
Blizz has never had qued content give too rewards so I really don’t know what delusion you’re coming from.
I’m sorry, we all have jobs, and it sucks that you cannot fit a raiding guild into your time schedule, maybe you should look harder and at other realms. It requires a certain time committment which is why we all; find guilds that work around our schedules. Mine raids at midnight est which is OK for me cus im PST.
Yeah job comes before games, its not everyone elses job to make sure you’re caught up with the rest of us who can put in the time to heroic/mythic raid. It sucks but thats the way she goes.