I have never advocated for removing the quests altogether lmao
Unattach the quests from the unlock.
What I was saying was: ARâs should just be creatable from the get-go and instead of making the quests a requirement to unlock the races, just make it so that the quests either reward the heritage armor or the option to have the ARâs start at level 10.
I get it. Thatâs a legitimate compromise. I didnât grind out kul tirans or half the other arâs because i wanted a main as that race (except this character of course). I did it for the achievements, heritage armors and to play BFA content i skipped.
If you are just grinding one race to make your new main, or a mian alt or something, then just do it and move on with your life. If you are doing it to collect them all like pokemon, then thatâs on you (not you but whoever chooses to do that). no one HAS to do that.
Not allowed to voice displeasure at the convoluted system. Just need to smile and whistle 
The mind of a boot licker
I donât believe the OP said anything like that.
He just wants to play a certain race but has do spend hours playing a character he doesnât want in order to do so.
I donât want to do a lot of things. but if the end result is worth it, I do it.
For instance⌠I donât want to be verbally abused by the OP every time I post in this thread. But the more he does it, the more I can flag him, and if he gets a ban, it will have been worth it.
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That is just like your opinion manâŚ
First off no one said it is funâŚ
Second KTâs are optional. NO one is forcing you to do it.
third⌠KTâs are glorious and worth the pain. Stick to it you will get it. And will be worth the work.
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Wouldnât it be great if we both didnât have to do things we donât want?
Perhaps the OP is âverbally abusing youâ because you arenât contributing anything to the discussion and are just plain trolling.
The most egregious example being this statement here:
âDonât wantâ and âShouldnât have toâ are very different concepts.
Having an opposing position doesnt mean im not contributing to the discussion. Iâve made my opinion on this topic clear in an earlier post. Just because you and the OP donât agree with my opinion, doesnât mean i canât express it here.
If I hadnât been called trash, instead been told âI donât agreeâ, or âyouâre in the minorityâ, or hell, even this is an echo chamber thread, no dissenting opinions allowed. I would have moved on and continued to hang out in the positive threads. Now i think ill stay awhile and make sure iâm âlikingâ all the posts with similar views
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Much like Iâm allowed to express my opinion that this is a stupid, frustrating, long, and tedious grind that doesnât need to exist.
Having followed both threads and seen the OPs arguments over and over, however, with not an answer to one question: Why are you putting yourself through what you identify as a horrendous process for a race? Why do you want to play KulâTiran so badly?
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I think theyâre a cool race.
Does the reasoning make a difference? Does it influence your opinion? Does my reasoning need to be worthy enough for you?
Honestly, it doesnât matter a hill of beans to me, but dozens of posts over two threads has me genuinely curious. Putting yourself through what you describe as punishment over just âa cool raceâ is fairly illogical.
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If there was any other way, I would be doing it.
But there is not, so I have to deal with this trash process.
no grind âneedsâ to exist.
âŚbut whatâs the point in just handing everything to everyone?
Weird I love leveling up bfa as alliance.
No one is asking for âeverythingâ to be handed to them. Playable races specifically should not require a grind.
They havenât in the past, and they donât know. Legion and BFA are the ONLY instances of this
why?
whatâs wrong with unlocking races?
every other game has stuff you can unlock by playing.
Legion and BFA are âthe pastâ, so yes, they clearly have âin the pastâ.
âŚand they do now.
The game doesnât stay the same from expansion to expansion.
The argument of âthis thing didnât exist in the pastâ is completely pointless.
Almost every aspect of the game has changed over time.
BfA was⌠an experience. At least it had some content and one of the best world quests ever made(not talking about the turtles). The islands were such a huge disappointment. The warfronts were not good but it was something they could have fixed. The visions were probably one of the best things in that expansion. I remember doing an achievement that took almost a year to do, good times.
I think bfa might for me at least have been better than shadowlands. Iâd rather deal with bfa than DF in the current state.