[quote=“Sarallesta-moon-guard, post:464, topic:192742, full:true”] But then, if Blizzard was thinking people were using the Water Strider most of all, why implement a stupid system? Why not add more Water Walking mounts?
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It is not because people are over using the strider. It is because they want to get rid of a mount that will water walk 100% of the time.
They will increase mob density so you will need anti-daze, but it will be in a water area so you will want water walking…
Chose one.
They are also bringing this out in the same patch as Pathfinder part two hoping that the Mount Equipment Shiny and being able to fly will deflect the general player from the fact their water strider no longer strides water.
And most of the player base does not read the forums and will be completely clueless.
This is exactly what is happening with the Sky Golem though.
The only mount that is losing something with mount equipment is the water strider… Yes it gets added back if you use the item. But why was the Sky Golem left alone? It couldve been changed like every other mount and a Herbing equipment item added.
Most people in favour of mount equipment say that theyre glad they’re not forced into using that “ugly” mount… But what about the people who dont like the Sky Golem, but feel ‘forced’ to use it for herbing? Yes, there is a consumable that does the same thing… There are also consumables for water walking.
Most people against the mount equipmemt change would like the water strider given the same exception as the sky golem.
My big beef is when you consider the different treatment between the two mounts (Sky Golem and Water Strider) its looks pretty clear (to me) that the underlying motivation was to remove water walking.
Treat all mounts with a unique abilty the same, either exempt from mount equipment or not.
It’s not even the most used mount for most people, though, just the mount most used when people want to walk on water, which isn’t the same thing. Cities aren’t full of people sitting on water striders, nor are most zones populated by people questing on water striders.
Outside Nazmir, where you can’t conveniently travel large parts of the zone without criss-crossing deep water, people are already using every other mount in the game.
Removing a mount’s ability to do X, solely because it’s the only type that can do that thing, would actually have any kind of justification if Blizzard had also removed the herbalism ability from the shredder mounts, which they haven’t.
I agree. Just to note, though: they’re also leaving the other special abilities alone. Yaks will still have a vendor and a transmog NPC, Brutosaurs will still have a vendor and an AH NPC, all the underwater mounts will still do what they were designed to do .
Sky Golem cannot have other equipment added to it, and will lose its ability if mount equipment is ever added that allows for harvesting. Figured, I’d let you know.
sky golem isn’t effected by the mount equipment change, it would not have been hard to make it function like every other mount and add a herbing mount equipment item. (this already exists as a consumable, so its clearly not a mechanical issue)
water walker on the other hand has its bonus removed, so it can be added as mount equipment.
water strider and sky golem are both mounts with special abilities, one is completely ignored by this change and the other isn’t,
I’ll be perfectly honest - I hate that thing with a passion. The only reason I have it in my inventory is that someone dear to me went to the gods-awful trouble to craft it for me and I cannot part with it. But I hate seeing it. I hate hearing it. I can’t stand it! It doesn’t fit my character and I’ve used it less than 10 times. >.<
On the flip side, it would never occur to me to come into a thread of players that adore it and worked hard to get the gold or build it and say many of the things that have been said here against that mount. It doesn’t do anything I can’t get a potion or barding or whatever they call those twiddly things to cut time down on playing the game.
Plus if I heard that they were allowing me to equip the perks of the Golem to any mount I choose, and the thread wasn’t against that? Why the heck would I take issue with that?
idk. Different strokes, I guess. ~shrugs~ Thank you for letting me vent about the Sky Golem though! ~grins~
Yeah, I think we will eventually see the harvesting added as well. They may let folks squeeze out one more expansion here before they put it in. As far as the strider goes, some folks will want it to have slow fall or anti daze on it, instead of being shoe horned into water walking only.
Take portal removal for example. First, they said they wanted to make the world feel bigger, then they said they didn’t want new players getting lost because they had to go to Legion to use the portals.
How about the PVP vendors… Their rational is that people couldn’t find the vendors.
Then there is the water-strider. They tried to remove it completely without saying anything to anyone. Then when the players complained, they attempted to make it only available in old content.
Their reasoning for removing stuff changes every time players challenge them.
Why does this bother people? It is not like this mount is no longer in the game so only a select group would have it. If that were the case, then it would be a selfish request. However, everyone can get the mount if they want the mount.
Perhaps you have an issue with pro strider people because decided not to get one. So, you see it as unfair that they can take water routes. But, that is your problem, the only person stopping you from getting a mount is yourself.
It’s too late at this point. Everyone is going to be flying anyways. And next expansion better have flying right off the bat or people are going to be very upset
And don’t forget how they ‘accidentally’ removed daze protection from absorbs on the PTR. And did nothing about it until they got blasted for it in the wowhead headlines.
“Not working as intended”
RiiiIIiiight. “As intended” would have been for the change to sneak through onto live before anyone noticed it, so that more people would feel like they had to equip No-Daze equipment to get back to travel as normal, depriving that many more people of water walking mounts, exactly as intended.