8.1: Jaina Sinks A Horde Fleet

Instead of crying about it how about you address the arguments that I have presented.
Because yeah.
Based on what I have presented the Horde player has no idea what it means to be humiliated.

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So you’re calling me blind and biased and that doesn’t seem ironic to you at all given your position? I also like how you just assume I only went after her because she was Alliance as if I’ve never made a similar remark to a Horde poster that was being unreasonable or openly hostile. I have.

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Why such a dramatic thread for such a low effort and low quality story?

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while i do understand exactly how you feel, your mistake is assuming that every horde player has been responsable for mocking us in all these years.
i don’t blame some horde players for being unhappy with being villain batted,with that being said, is hard for me to have any sympathy for the horde as a faction,but the players aren’t responsable for what blizzard has done. they don’t control the story, neither of us do.

so can we just focus… in the actual enemies, blizzard writers?

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There was some math in the assumption. You said hers was the “most condescending thing” you’ve seen. My assumption is predicated on that. Either you’ve missed a LOT in threads where we’ve both been present, or you blind eye. Because I most certainly have seen worse aimed directly at me.

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My rant aside, I don’t blame them either. Its easy to empathize with the Horde posters here. They’re exactly where I’ve been, asking for sympathy from the “other side”. Its harder to sympathize. Because its pretty routinely denied when its on our end. Invalidation breeds bitterness. No matter how much I or others want to try to be above it.

And I am very much aware its not every Horde player.

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In a fair few of the arguments I’ve seen you in I just ended up skipping huge chunks of the conversation when it became clear it was going in circles. I try to avoid forum drama where I find it.

A few days ago three or four of the threads I was trying to follow were locked down in some petty argument or another so I just skipped huge chunks of it.

I was also being hyperbolic in my statement. I don’t tend to commit negativity to memory out of habit. If I had to sit and think about it I assume the most condescending thing I’ve read probably came from… One of the more hostile users. I don’t want to name names, but you can probably take a wild guess.

Ok.

What do these Horde posters want?
They raised “not winning right” well what is that? How much harder can they win?
They mentioned being humiliated. Humiliated how? What constitutes humiliation?

Is there any scale to this humiliation? What are some comparisons?

Besides the drama queen Kisin still milking the outrage and victim-hood.

This is something I’ve been thinking about for a while. You’re right that it’s weird how horde players can say they feel bad about their wins while simultaneously not wanting to lose. The two sides look incompatible from a narrative standpoint.

What I want, and what I think other posters are really asking for, is to just…not feel like a bad person in-game simply for following the game’s story. And I think when someone asks “well why can’t I at least win in my objectives?”, it’s because they’ve given up on a story where they can feel good and want to settle for one where they at least feel effective. And then they don’t even get that in 8.1.

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What a strange situation. You seem to have mistake your own reflection for me.

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Keep crying. I addressed your points but you have no interest besides perceived slight and drama.

Move along now.

I didn’t raise any points in this discussion. I haven’t made an argument. I pointed out that telling other people what they do and do not know is condescending, which it is.

If you want we could discuss the points you’ve raised, but I’d like to know you’re willing to hear and consider my side of the discussion rather than dismiss it out of hand.

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Whatever I am done with your troll bating.
Respond or not. I hardly care anymore. I have a policy of not feeding trolls any further than necessary.

I elaborated my point that Horde players don’t have an idea of what it means to be humiliated by Blizzard and now you are just dodging.

See, it’s the constant insults that tell me I shouldn’t bother making any sort of argument. You’re not interesting in hearing what I have to say.

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I miss being able to place nasty self-centered posters on ignore.

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For the past dozen or so replies I have addressed every point raised since my original comment that you found so personally offensive.

In that time you have raised your outrage 5 times.
And I have asked you to respond to my points several times.

Rather than finally doing it. You ask that I beg you one more time to finally speak about it.
I have no intention of begging you.

Thrall did NOT go “all emo.”
Thrall is a hero for AZEROTH.
And when he returns to the Horde,
You faithless blue blooded butt huggers will all know the righteous wrath of Go’el’s hairy green balls.

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I don’t want you to beg me. I want you to “lower your outrage 5 times” and show on some level that you’re not just going to keep throwing insults at me if I made a bigger post explaining my position.

I’m not going to engage someone in deeper conversation if I feel like I am going to get nothing but hostility and snark in return.

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I reserve my snark for those that argue in bad faith.

Prove to me you are not just someone that’s using 1 statement to fuel a 10 comment thread about how outrageous it was.

And yeah. I am going to hear you out.
But you need to address everything I raised first or else I am not going to respond.
Deal?

I chuckled irl.