Is this still going
Are we wintrading post count or what
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Gosh darn when are we going to remove freedom of speech so only the “glad” forum dwellers can just talk endlessly stroking their own egos?
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Trying to break a record here. Thanks for your contribution 
you forgot to swap toons before replying to urself
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I’m solely posting on this toon. Sorry to break your “gotcha” attempt.
Alts are for dorks.
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Don’t worry bro Kenny replies to every thread no matter what. 44k+ posts
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You take that back. There are way too many good transmogs to only play one class 
I absolutely agree! I think most people can be reasonable and tend to agree with reasonable takes!
Which is why I thought it was super weird for flappyjacks to come out of the gate swinging with:
Now ethylene/butene is super toxic and angry, but he’s right about UhDk being weak. I think we can all agree on that. So instead of having a productive conversation about balance, we got hit with:
(Which is objectively wrong and I provided a source to support)
And despite actually agreeing with my commentary you said,
It’s just SO wild to me that I’m reading comments like:
When the people who STARTED the “circle jerking” were Aduka and Flappyjacks. Y’all are the ones raging and harassing people.
Go back and read the thread start to finish, yall came in here hot and bothered, not anyone else.
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i THINK coming into a DPS player talking about queue times and your only comment is “play a healer” is trolling. Why tell someone to play something else instead of focusing on the issue? It’s part of what’s currently ruining pvp.
Outside of that, I wasn’t trying to troll you and definitely did not come at you “hot and bothered.” That’s when Boltin showed up and derailed the whole topic just for the sake of trolling, for which he’s been flagged multiple times and hopefully will be dealt with. Was hoping for more open debate about what could be done to fix issues.
Also, I think the “raging” by others you mentioned in the post above was aimed at Boltin after the “look at me look at me I have glad achieves but can’t show you my characters” initial posts.
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There’s simply no other proper fix though.
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That’s fair. It was meant less to be satirical and more to point out what the issues are and why.
Fundamentally, nothing can be done about queue times except getting more people to heal. That’s the crux of the issue.
You could play a healer! While I recognize that doesn’t fix the issue for your dps spec, I think it gives a LOT of insight to the healer experience and why it can be frustrating.
At the end of the day, healers and dps are pretty equally responsible for wins and losses.
However, very rarely does the dps player see the results of their mistake.
It’s the same thing in pve; if a dps messes up there are other dps to oftentimes fill in the gap. If a healer or tank makes a mistake THAT’S when a wipe/loss occurs.
At the end of the day, it comes down to the fact that people don’t want as much stress or responsibility and that dps IS always going to be more popular.
I think healers SHOULD be more incentivized with hgiher conquest token rewards and/or gold, or even a mount/progress bar to work towards. However, incentivizing healers to heal doesn’t even fix the issue because there is no guarantee that it will produce QUALITY games with good healers. I imagine you’d see faster Q times at 14-1800 where healers spam Q for their rewards, but they wouldn’t necessarily be good, and would likely just “go next” if the games weren’t ideal since they’ll always have instant queues, nor does it incentivize them to improve at the healer role.
I believe Supa recently offered up that he thinks they should just inflate healer ratings… Which I personally don’t think that solves anything because then those healers just get run down in higher lobbies, playing in lobbies they potentially don’t belong in.
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My first games on one of my healers who had pure green gear was at 1850 and around 2k MMR I was the only one in 0 rating. Everyone else was like 1900+
I can agree this was NOT a fun experience haha
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I have played healer and simply don’t enjoy it. Though, that said, I fully appreciate what they’re dealing with right now as far as healing, micro cc, cc chains, burst… it’s wild, which is why I respect it.
But that’s also why I have the take that I have on reducing dps instead of just continuously buffing things.
Just a side note - I’m genuinely curious what a 5v5 solo shuffle might look like - where each team would have 2 healers and 3 dps… takes a little pressure off the healer, opens teams up to set up cc chain kills more… but they’d have to reduce damage again so that people aren’t just getting 1 tapped by 3 dps while the other healer gets full spam cc’d.
Why not Q for some random/epic BGs while waiting for the games with the numbers attached to pop?
Q times for random/epic BGs are popping quick, all the time, all the day, since the game began till the game ends.
If they changed a couple things with prot paladin so it could replace an actual healer, and made it occupy the role of a healer in shuffle and in 2s/3s, I’d play it and get people those faster queues they want. They could do this through pvp talents similar to the new wog mana cost reduction talent
I agree. Personally I think a double dps 2v2 shuffle would help alleviate a lot of the 3v3 shuffle queue times provided they don’t let players be in both the 2v2 and 3v3 shuffle queue at the same time. A lot of players just want to log in and hit stuff and don’t really care if it’s 3’s as long as it’s a fair and rated format so this would siphon a bunch of dps out of the 3v3 queue improving those times. Immediately people react negatively to this suggestion claiming things such as “rogues will run the bracket and warriors will suck” but I disagree for these reasons:
- I have played every class in double dps 2’s and you can do surprisingly well on things people wouldn’t expect.
- The teams will be shuffled so you get the “good” spec too.
- You are really only competing against your spec on the ladder.
Ultimately it’s just 2’s as well so who cares. It gives people something to do that doesn’t rely on healers and if it’s too fast paced they can add like a blanket damage reduction or passive healing effect.
Remember the days when a queue would pop while in a BG? That was amazing!!
Now you have to sit with your hands
Here is the problem. This thread had nothing to do with class balance. Yet, another cry baby comes in begging for their class to get buffs. It gets old man. As for the data… that’s rich AF. I’ve provided data (before you) that proved otherwise and you chose to ignore it. Again, I’ve said I don’t really care otherwise, buff DKs. Nerf BM and Feral. But, yet again we can’t have a productive conversation about the topic OP posted without losers jumping in begging for buffs and derailing with glad flexes and rating shaming. I’d also like to add that you tell us to reread but I encourage you to do the same. OP was immediately jumped on after making the post. YOU guys are the ones who came in all hot and bothered. It’s funny how projection works with you guys. But anyways keep on with your same song and dance and acting like you have some moral high ground on the forums. You sir, are certified neck beard loser.
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Wouldn’t mind seeing something LIKE this honestly… but let’s be honest there are certain specs that would dominate. You might be right though, that it could help alleviate some of the times. Things like this would be fairly easy to implement with the existing code that they COULD test… but aren’t.
Also get outta here with your crusty a$$ prot pally 
I played against a prot war last week that was doing arms/fury damage, had more micro cc (extremely annoying) and was execute critting for 1.7 mil… like… why…? lol