Who still talks like this? 
Retail demonhunters. 
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Ooooh. I hear that class takes a lot of skill.
Whatâs funny is, even WHEN Alliance had premades, Horde would still get itâs share of bonus honor. Sometimes up to 4k worth.
Alliance has at least 2 out of 5 games with ZERO bonus honor, and most of the time itâs less than 1k.
So with premades it was Alliance winning around 60% of the time (donât forget all the AVâs horde won when premades werenât in that AV) and Horde still getting some bonus honor, while now itâs Horde dominating 95% of time and Alliance getting zippo. Sounds fair.
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Localization? Pretty simple answer. Do you mean to tell me youâve never seen players on NA servers with names and pet names in Asian characters? Same thing applies.
The player who posted that in our Discord resides in the US, but plays on both NA and Taiwanese servers.
äźĺźćŻ may well be a PvE server as you said earlier. I donât know. But in what bearing does that have on anything at the end of the day? PvE servers arenât separate from others in the BG pool.
Yeah still not buying it. äźĺźćŻ doesnât translate to Maraudon (and I know you said you werenât clear on this) but thereâs just no other information except a sketchy looking screen shot.
LOL level 18 forum trolls are sad
Getting around the game preventing you from forming a premade group for AV sounds exactly like an exploit which is why Blizzard has taken action to prevent it. Itâs very fair. Sorry your faction doesnât want to actually try to win on even ground.
I brought that up in the past and the response I got equated to âYeah, but it is hard to complete the cap because horde can attack it from all anglesâ.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/tw/%E4%BC%8A%E5%BC%97%E6%96%AF/supreme#
This is literally his WCL profile. Thatâs where I pulled server name from. Clearly indicates TW, donât know what else youâre looking for to be honest.
Answer me this:
Is 25% of a 40 person team AFKing/Leeching âbadâ?
Is a faction that attracts those who prefer to not PVP in relation to playing a BG âbadâ?
Perhaps in asia there are no loiterers, and neither faction is filled with those who dislike PVP.
Youâre asking a question based on speculation with statistics that have no foundation. Do you expect an honest answer?
Really? Thatâs your response?
edit: OK, Iâll humor you. Remove the latter âspeculationâ and limit it to
Is 25% of a 40 person team AFKing/Leeching âbadâ?
If you want to claim that 25% of alliance teams regularly being AFK/Leeching has no foundation, I am not going to waste any more time on you.
Why dont you have a 100% win rate in wsg with all the premades you have?
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Iâm already done with you so it works out for both of us.
How convenient that you cannot even acknowledge the regular occurrence of 25% of the alliance teams being AFKing/Leeching.
I play horde on skeram and in the last two weeks Iâm about 80% on probably 15 AVs so itâs definitely not 100%.
That being said, itâs pretty ignorant to act surprised about this. the nature of Classic wow before it even dropped was that⌠in terms of AV⌠horde would be more populated more active in PvP and tend to win anything thatâs not a zerg. That is relatively common in retail even. Now, 80% win rate for a faction is definitely drastic but the ultimate point to be made here is simpleâŚ
Blizzard deserves a ton of a recognition for being consistent and doing there best not to alter the original experience that we wanted, whatever obstacles that brings⌠AV being unbalanced is really just blizzard doing there best to edit the que system without changing it completely⌠they know that this means hr and half que times for horde and a rough experience for Ally trying to earn rewards through AV but as a community⌠thatâs what we asked for didnât we?
Once they make the BIG changes in classic, it wonât ever end and the Original experience is then automatically hindered. The reason blizzard isnt going into classic and adjusting the system is because of us⌠as frustrating as some of the community is about some of the set backs of that I think we all can agree that Blizzard holding there ground is really something we should be thankful for in the long run. Again, thatâs what we asked for.
Have you done any sleuthing based off that WCL profile? Does that line up?
Iâm genuinely curious myself.
His parses looked weird being greys/greens, but the lack of previous raids prior to Feb 22nd actually lines up, considering he just finished grinding Rank 14 recently on his NA toon:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stalagg/supremacy
It looks like he just rolled a new character after finishing up HWL on NA.
Nah. At the absolute worst, we have 3 or 4 afks.
The problem is horde cave spawns right next to ibgy and sfgy is indefensible due to horde spawn placement.
You want so desperately for this to be a matter of skill when it isnât.
Pug vs pug wsg games entirely shut this argument down.
You guys have a blatant advantage and are arguing to keep it. That is all this entire thing boils down to.
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Im sorry, are we just going to completely going to ignore the fact that Alliance are winning in Asia on the same map? Clearly it doesnât just âboil downâ to map.
Theyâre playing on the same damned map you are. Youâre claiming weâre making it all about skill, while youâre here inversely trying so desperately to make it all about map.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640810811245330442/681972300274204739/unknown.png
These things arenât mutually exclusive principals. It can be a little of column A, a little of column B.
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And potentially column C the return of OCE premades, which would only be consistent with the history of NA AV as well.