*Raises hand… Then again, I’m fairly certain we where in BWL/AQ40 gear at the time…
It wasn’t that difficult in that level of gear, but it did take an obnoxiously long time for a single run.
You referred to portal orb to BWL being in Molten Span, which to me means the big rock structure in the middle, not on the side where UBRS, BWL, LBRS entrances are. Just trying to clarify things.
the side of the molten span is still the molten span, regardless of the rock
and again this thread(threat) is about the dungeons, not the orb
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Wow this troll thread actually got a lot of people going.
7/10
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you mean 5/7?
also please stay on topic
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Not a troll, I found the source.
Blizzard asked the question during BlizzCon “should we make UBRS 5 man or 10 man?”
This is a legitimate concern that only a minority of players have realised could greatly affect gameplay.
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If you have very coordinated group in UBRS 10man you can 6 man it In ok gear.
10 ppl make a little easier and 15 makes way easier. Never heard of a 5man UBRS.
I hope blizzard doesn’t make it a 5 man it would be a joke.
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I haven’t seen this source so until I see it will consider this to be BS.
UBRS was never a 5 man dungeon in vanilla it was changed into one in Cataclysm.
During Vanilla it was first a 15 man raid and then it was downscaled to a 10 man raid.
As it was a 10 man raid in 1.12 I am assuming that this version is the version we are going to receive.
I think I know what may be causing some confusing. LBRS and UBRS are the same instance (Blackrock Spire). In order to do the Horde side ony attunement, you needed to be a 5-man group to do the lower section LBRS (it is not a raid quest). LBRS as a 5-man is no joke and requires a decent amount of cc and coordination. I remember many pulls being quite challenging, especially some of the orc packs and magic resistant dragons.
Concerning UBRS, as stated before, it used to be a 15-man. During this period Scholomance and Stratholme were also both 10-man dungeons. It must have been a period between 1.0-1.10, though I didn’t check that. Later it was converted into a 10-man instance. I remember having to go in 10 people at a time to get the FR buff for rag back in vanilla post 1.10.
As for 5-manning UBRS, that is no joke. Very skilled players in preraid bis without MC or ONY gear would struggle even with a lot of consumables and coordination. For a PUG, I think it would be nearly impossible.
It is true that the Blackwing Lair portal is inside the upper part of the BRS instance, the same is true for the Naxx portal being inside Stratholme, and the MC portal inside BRD. Originally Blizzard would have had people enter the raid through the dungeon, but scrapped that idea somewhere along the line, because of the logistical problems of clearing an entire dungeon out before even starting a raid.
As for the question at hand, I don’t think UBRS was ever intended to be a 5-man during vanilla wow. However, I do remember some people in Naxx gear 3-manning it, so it will happen. But if they made it a 5-man on release, that would not be in line with their 1.12 model, at least with the gear people will have at release (blues and greens). Why would you even go there with 5 people, when you could take 10? The Rend event itself would be almost impossible, and Drakk needs 2 tanks, 1 to take over during conflag. I think you may be referring to the interview where ?David Allen Brack? made a mistake and asked whether UBRS would be 5 or 10man, when he probably meant 10 or 15man. It should be known that DAB was not part of the classic team, so his knowledge probably isn’t very reliable, not to insult the man.
Anyway, I think it’s safe to say that UBRS will be 10-man and Scholo/Strat will be 5-man during WoW classic’s life.
Hope that helps.
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Totally agree with that. I too have never heard of it being nerfed into a 5-man
it was never nerfed to a 5 man in vanilla, but 5 people could do it
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Yes, this is the source I was referring to.
I see, so it’s quite probable he meant to say 10-15, not 5-10.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Sorry for being so outraged everyone, just after hearing about the av nerfs I came across a 5 man UBRS debate and was quite annoyed thinking blizz was trying to find ways to make classic easier.
As stupid as a 5 man UBRS sounded I honestly don’t know what kind of stunt blizzard will pull next anymore.
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Understandable, but yeah no need to worry because they have the exact data of the 10 man version in the 1.12 reference version which they have it’s more than likely they will simply implement that with the reverted loot tables for pre 1.10 version in the start.
They might not even have the numbers for the 15 man version anywhere so that would require additional work or even be quite impossible to accomplish and as 5 man was never a thing in vanilla and thus they definitely cannot have any numbers for such things as it never existed I think this is a clear cut thing that it’s going to be the 10 man version.
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FWIW, while Blizzard is going with the “easy” version of vanilla (patch 1.12, and that’s other people’s opinion, I’m just paraphrasing), IMO, they do seem committed to delivering a highly authentic version of that particular patch, as much as possible.
They haven’t nerfed AV so much as gone with the 1.12 version over an earlier one. I’m not defending the decision so much as pointing out that to say that it’s been nerfed is a little strong. AFAWK they’re not messing with the actual data in the BG except to fix any gamebreaking bugs that may have popped up in the process of “reviving” the game.
I do believe blizzard is committed and putting great effort into to delivering an authentic classic we can all enjoy.
Recently I came across a video where someone refered to retail as the “real” game, and ion corrected him right there saying classic is also the “real” game, which gave me great hope for classic and a new found respect for ion.
I can see he has passion for the project and fully intends to deliver as promised.
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Did you miss the part where your first words in your initial post were “i read somewhere”?
Where did you read it? Show your source buddy. I bet that source is in your own head.
I read it in these forums, if you do a quick google search you will find multiple threads with other people talking about it.
Also if you read above you would realise a poster found the source, it was a quote from BlizzCon that was a mistake on part of the speaker who meant to say 10 man.
Loool that is your source? And you took it as fact?
You must be dense, I did not take anything as fact, as I have stated several times this thread was made for the propose of clarification.
There was also a direct quote from BlizzCon that stated it could be 5 man, so my queries were justified, what’s your problem?
The title of this thread, and this right here are perfect examples of how rumors spread mis-information.
You didn’t even link the source where you read this.
Literally not one blue post, or credible source, says this.
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