395/400 Item Level Emissaries: Yes please

That’s… beyond stupid. Are you really suggesting that, back when pvp gear was terrible for anything pve, the majority of players only pvped? Lol talk about irrelevant opinions…

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And that was why having PvP gear instead of raiding gear when you raided was such a stigma for a LONG time, because they had inferior raiding stats. It’s not now, because it’s no different than raiding gear anymore.

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Far more people did pvp than after wod. I been playing since vanilla. I doubt you have. They do this for a reason, not for you

random queued content of any difficulty that requires more attention, skill or fight knowledge than half a turnip is capable of is simply impossible. nothing will die.

oh, I’ll add: leadership and coordination - things that are 100% lacking in random queued groups.

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Honour gear was at normal tie level, it was enough to crush pve raider, now it is not

This is basically the reason why raider io exists.

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Lol ah yes, the “I’ve been here since vanilla” and “this game is easy” posters. Ok buddy, I’m done with you.

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In what respect? In PvP? No argument there. But if you mean in PvE? Then you remember people in full PvP gear in raids very differently than I do.

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Remember, he’s been here “since vanilla” and you haven’t so he knows things you don’t :smiley:

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Back then heroic = mythic, normal = today’s normal. You still can you pvp gear for pve content just not optimal. Look, I don’t why you guys don’t under blizzard is trying get people continue to play that would otherwise stop playing. How hard is that to understand, all Burch emotional toxic people

Yeah, I remember. And I realize that Blizzard is trying to get more people to play. Some of us just think they’re going about it in the wrong way.

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If Blizzard wants more people to play, they should immediately put flying back, stop this “remove water-walking from the water-walking mount” nonsense, listen more to player feedback, ditch the rng upon rng and stop doubling down on grindy systems that we’ve already had in past expansions.

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Yeah, well, I just started playing another popular MMORPG yesterday. This is coming from someone that has had a continuous sub since mid-Wrath (it would have been earlier than that, but I live in the deep country and we didn’t get non-dial up internet until then). They need to do something different, because WoW was the only game I played regularly and now I barely log in.

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Invalidating heroic raiding is not how you keep people playing. If you haven’t noticed the more wow goes ultra casual the more subs it loses.

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Heroic Raiding has a terrible participation rate and people don’t care for raiding as a whole.

Correlation does not mean causation.

Also, I’m done fighting. I give up. It seems nothing will get through to any member of Elitism. Every truth to them is a lie.

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It is more the otherway around, wrath is very causul friendly, wod is raid or die

Yeah feels like too little too late - but I guess if you’re just getting into the game, or have recently leveled an alt, it helps get them some decent gear.

Seems odd for them to cap it at 395 though. Didn’t Season 1 cap at heroic raid ilvl?

And you can buy those runs with gold to boot.

Great push more players that have absolutely no idea what they are doing going into content that requires at least some brain power. “wah h opulence too hard”. Why do I need AotC to pug heroic? What do you mean I need to know mechanics?

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So BoD gets invalidated while there are srill around 3 months to go before the new raid. Great idea.

But all this really means is that far more people will start whining about raiderio sonce Ilvl will be meaningless as a metric.

All in all this doesnt really effect me. Just means ill get more TR from emissary quests every now and then.

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