395/400 Item Level Emissaries: Yes please

This is correct. Also the spammable badge (justice?) only got you gear from the last raid tier. So in ICC normal dropped 255ilvl gear but those badges would only buy 232 gear which was normal TOC gear.

If we use the Wrath model, all world quest, warfront, emissary, etc should drop Normal Uldir 355 gear.

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Cata failed because it instilled a fear to Blizzard that queue-able content was the devil.

Profit wise it did good and wasn’t the worst in my opinion, that dishonor goes to WOD.

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Since you’re already a proven liar, why should we believe anything you say?

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I don’t know what Akston gave you to think that, but I don’t want it.

The phrase “hard content and random doesn’t mix” came from Cata.

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You made claims about JP/VP in Wrath when they didn’t even exist.

You mis-represented Wrath’s systems, based on your false information, and then held it up as the best expansion because of things-that-didn’t-even-exist.

And the worst part is that you think everybody else is too stupid to realize how full of hot air you are…

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It’s not a WoD paradigm, it’s how RPG’s have worked since they were introduced. You fight harder enemies to get better gear to fight harder enemies that drop better gear.

If you raid heroic regularly you shouldn’t be able to get an upgrade by tracing a circle on the ground for 3 seconds.

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Emblems of Frost = VP

Emblems of Justice = JP

I simplify the two. I know what they are. I’m about to go ballistic on your lying.

So kindly go with Akston. Before I think about risking a forum vacation.

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I still don’t understand why the best gear being awarded from the hardest content is an issue. You say that it “forces” you to do that content if you want the best gear. Okay. But if you’re a “casual” player who only does WQs, Islands, Warfronts, LFR, and other queueable content than why do you need that gear in the first place? Heroic/Mythic quality gear is not “needed” for the content you’re doing, so I’m not sure what the issue is.

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I don’t understand why, when you point out that people were incorrect, that they double-down and dig their hole even deeper.

Is it really so hard to say “you’re right, I was mistaken” or even “I was mis-remembering”.

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Because if I say a member of the Elitist party is right, the game creeps pinch closer to death due to me being converted.

The gaslighting game is real.

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Member to to get up to the latest tier, you had to be geared in the previous tier?

Kids these days only get welfare. But on a non-joke note, the rewards from WQ/Emissary shouldn’t go up, just because people want to get into new raid easily.

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Just to clarify, in wrath you could get a total of 23 emblems of frost per week without doing ICC. 14 from dailys,5 from weekly and 4 from voa 10/25.

You could buy 251 tier for 60/95 emblems or 264 off set/chest/trinkets for 50-95 emblems.

Yes, but VoA and the weekly also required raiding. That’s why I said “if you didn’t raid” but I could have made that clearer, I guess.

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The system Celtic proposed in Wrath was my cup of tea.

To state my opinion on something as lying is not OK, Tewa.

Yet you regularly lie about my opinion. Why? Because as the words out of your own mouth…because I disagree with you.

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Making false statements about Wrath’s systems is lying. Lying is not OK, although I realize a lot of people on the internet these days think they can get away with it. (And freak out when somebody calls them on it.)

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You did it in record time compared to Akston, but you did.

Well said. Rewards should reflect the difficulty of the content being done. You know, like the majority of RPGs since video games became a thing.

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Man, reading OP and the other two going at it … all I can think of is, “SHOTS FIRED!”

Where’s the popcorn :popcorn:??

I will torch your popcorn, good sir. Today is just a bad day.

And I have a memory of burning popcorn like that.