If you mean me, I never said I was going to make up for it. Thing is, they still have utility, however I don’t justify removing the shining force spell or not giving them an interrupt. I only mentioned it because of the drama that others made (days ago) with the exaggeration. And even that invi pot can be used… it’s a 5min CD and also if you don’t have rogue, I think you only have that left to support (at least a little) u.u