3 PvP servers?

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@Elarcun-benediction

Pretty sure they aren’t layering the whole zone as one chunk.

They layer the entire server in one chunk.

We’re not getting shards.

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@Dailrogg-azralon

That is my point: You had your fun as a ganker, and now you are saying other people are not allowed to have theirs? You fought Tarren Mill x Hillsbrad, Ashenvale before the BG’s, and you owned a lot of people with inferior gear in those - and you died a lot too.

No, I’m saying I’ve played both sides of it and I realize it’s ultimately a massive waste of time for both parties. There’s no reward, it’s just griefing. It’s not fun. It’s not entertaining. It’s not progressive. It’s literally only griefing. There’s no reward outside of making someone else unable to play.

@Dailrogg-azralon

About BG’s while leveling up, not everything has to be min/man about performance. Sometimes you just want to queue while leveling up - back then it was fun, not modern retail that is a joke. Sure, specially in TBC, it was a farm.

That’s part of the maturity I was talking about. Realizing that progression is a necessity is more important than goofing around in suboptimal ways. Who cares about your 20-29 BG when you’re leveling? It doesn’t mean anything to anyone.

@Dailrogg-azralon

Again, I think you are just burned out of PVP. If, at Vanilla wow, you managed to get High Warlord and you also have a Grand Marshal in classic, that means you farmed a lot. I remember the whole ordeal for the High Warlord in my server, grinding for close to 12 hours a day just for the sake of carnage of those BG’s that were few and repetitive. Specially the ridiculously long abyss from Warlord to High Warlord and all the groups, and being excluded for not being dedicated enough or for being too dedicated.

I’ve played PvP in WoW through 8 gladiator titles, Original HWL, Current GM, and DF S1 4 The Elite characters in one season. I’m aware of what PvP is, means, and entails. World PVP isn’t pvp. It’s ganking, and griefing.

@Dailrogg-azralon

Few servers are just awful. Just take Hardcore in consideration. If you remember back then, the Battle Groups and the ammount of servers, it wasn’t just because the game had more players, or because the server did not had layers, or supported fewer people. It was because people, in servers, have some sort of tribalism, and having options is much better than overcrowded servers, filled with artifical layers, with only one auction house, in a generation where a lot of people are dedicated to the cult of personalities like Twitch instead on the gameplay and the community, making guilds more volatile.

The problem becomes that mega-servers thrive, and smaller servers die. Everyone levels on a small server, griefs/ninjas/somethings, and then transfers to the mega server. It sucks because if you’re an alt player, you’re dumping out a hundred bucks to transfer every time a server dies unless you’re going to the big server.

@Dailrogg-azralon

Nowdays players have so much more to enjoy about PVP realms because of the addition of better servers, more stability, layers, better instancing compared to that awful tech limitations from before.

PvP is at an all-time low of participation across every aspect of WoW in every version. I don’t think PvP is as popular as you’re trying to imply it is, particularly world pvp. People play pvp servers so they can thumb their nose and brag about how they’re not a “pve carebear” or whatever, but Whitemane as an example has shown a consistent decline of active playerbase while having probably the highest RMT scene in classic history.

@Dailrogg-azralon

As I said, you had your fun. Now you don’t want others to have that fun because it is at your expense? Maybe you still have a lot to grow up, my friend. We all do.

Excuse me? Did you just say I should voluntarily subject myself to having my play time ruined, be griefed, and waste my after-work hours of availability so that some 13 year old can “have fun at my expense” - as a sign of maturity? What adult would ever subject themselves to that? No. There’s a reason PvP servers are insanely toxic: Teenagers and young adults trying to flex.

@Dailrogg-azralon

As I said, let’s have some fun in Season of Discovery open world PVP just for the laughs. That is not the only thing I am gonna do, but it’s definetly one of the things I’m gonna do. Probably will be doing a lot of world pvp around ashenvale. And probably got bored.

Most players on most discords are expecting SoD Ashenvale-gank to last for maybe a week then die. Even with forced server pop, you can’t force people to play it. They’ll just play PvE instead. Look at classic era currently - Whitemane is shriveling and dying while guilds transfer out constantly to PvE realms because it’s just not worth it. You’re welcome to spend your time as you wish, but as a long-term goal targeting player I can’t think of anything less useful of my time than level 25 wPvP/PvPvE ganking in Ashenvale.

@Dailrogg-azralon

I’m honestly thinking about leveling a rogue just to be a break between studies, you? Read a bit, kill someone. Read some more, kill some more.

PvE server, Prot Paladin with the inevitable “I’m not making another warrior.” warrior alt.

@Dailrogg-azralon

You know, typical socipathic behavior that you yourself claimed to have enjoyed so much. That isn’t really sociopathic at all, just fun and games.

Torture is only fun to the one that isn’t being tortured.

[Taki-defias-pillager]

I sure will…Ooo…ooo…ahh…ahhh.