Yes 
The Horde is being destroyed, painfully and slowly. It is their punishment for being Evil.
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How did the Alliance deal with the debt they owed to the workers who rebuilt Stormwind for them again?
The stonemasons guild should have filed the proper paperwork. So the Alliance put down the traitorous dogs and ended their rebellion. Took a while, but we got the job done.
I’m not gonna sit here and RP in the forums. It’s a waste of time to make bs stories up in an argument about lore and morality.
By any standards we can come up with today both factions are insanely evil.
I find it somewhat crazy that in 2024 there are still so many players (at least on the forums) who are so obsessed with “BuT MUh FaCTioN PrIdE” and constantly bash players of the other faction or endlessly whine about how they’re victims because they play Faction X and how bad it feels.
The fact is, no one should be playing WoW for the lore, because, sorry, but it’s absolutely terrible. And not just since BfA. Even back in TBC, there were countless retcons and questionable things. The story is always twisted and turned to fit the current needs, regardless of whether it makes sense or completely contradicts previously established facts.
The Alliance is incredibly incompetent and constantly gets steamrolled despite having more or less demigods in their ranks. The Horde follows insane leaders like mindless sheep.
I hope the day comes soon when the last ridiculous restrictions for players are finally removed, so that all races are available to both factions, as well as cities, mounts, and transmogs, unless they’re PvP sets. Then we can finally stop with this victim complex.
Yeah. A lot of the lore was in expanded media. Also the Pandaria war was partially carried out in instanced scenarios or phased quests that didn’t exist before and after that piece of content. Obviously Blizzard was concerned with maintaining that “shininess” of the zones.
Which I suppose is ironic in how much people whine about the corruption of the Vale - that made Garrosh’s actions betraying the Horde feel like it had weight. Jade Forest and SoO were the twin peaks / bookends of Pandaria and really the only moments that felt like they had any impact - everything else in the expansion was “pretend” in a sense.
In WoW the world is a character. The world needs to show signs of battle to feel like things are happening.
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I didn’t realize we were bringing “unity and peace” to all those spider people in WW, as well as the void and the numerous other species and factions we practically genocide every expansion.
Yeah man come and get it, we will burn another tree if necessary
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It’s the same as having a favorite team in sports. Tribalism is practically ingrained in our DNA. I picked Horde years ago, I’m gonna rep Horde for as long as I have any investment in this game. The Horde’s standing and treatment in this game is going to play a large part in my enjoyment of it but like any team-based environment, I understand that it would be boring if one team always wins and the other always loses.
Making playable races available on both factions is like saying a football player can be a part of both teams on the same field. It doesn’t work. The people making these decisions are treating it like the people who don’t think competitions should keep scores and everyone should be a winner.
this is exactly it, and it is beginning to feel like unserious trolling at this point, when they make these threads.
azeroth will not see peace for the next 5-6 years
I’m in the same boat. Both factions have done…so much. Lost even more. Going through MoP recently has just kinda reconfirmed that. Everyone in BFA was just so bloody tired of it. Exhausted. Running from it. Hiding from it. Even when they were brought back into the fold, it was with a grim determination to make this the LAST battle.
We’re done with war. How the team wants to handle representation is really important to me, and I hope we get to see more Horde Characters in here - but I think we’ll just have to wait and see. personally I’m…really happy we’re not fighting. Wondering if we’re gonna lose more folks that I really care about is…taxing.
Honestly, that is a nonsensical comparison. A Horde human can be just as patriotic as an Alliance human, and that applies to absolutely every race. But Blizzard still treats racial separation as the decisive factor for loyalty… which, if you think about it for just a moment, is absolutely ridiculous. They treat each race as if they suffer from a hive mind mentality. You now have a faction of Night Elves/Nightborne, female humans as Evokers, and soon dwarves in the Horde. Are they any less Horde just because they look like races in the Alliance? Certainly not. Even in a fictional world, loyalty should not be equated with a person’s appearance.
I’d settle for seeing them do ANYTHING even remotely cool. I want to be hyped for the game, Blizzard just isn’t doing it.
they havent put out a cool cinematic in 6 years. since the bfa hype cinematic
walking and talking thrall/anduin is not hype
Sometimes that’s life. That’s war.
The game has gone for twenty years. That’s plenty of time to have enjoyed the company of certain character.
I know personally I’m ready to let go of Dadgar, my only complaint is if he’s sacrificed at the altar of a completely transient threat. Like losing someone on the last day of a war - a meaningless death. That would feel like such a disservice to him - maybe realistic in some regards but sometimes a bit of fantasy in my fantasy hits the spot. Let him go out with a proper bang, not fall during a big hunt. Toppling the Legion only to be killed by bugs is just so disheartening.
Same race tends to band together makes sense because everyone is pretty freaking racist in this game. To a murderous extent. The Horde formed with each race doing so out of desperation to survive. Trust built over time. There is none of that between the races of the Horde and those in the Alliance. Until very recently, Horde races have been kill-on-sight. Tirion was exiled for not doing so.
Azeroth isn’t much a world of individuals, it’s a world of tribes. Anything outside of yours is probably trying to kill you. Reminder, some of the player races eat people. How are you gonna be a proud Undercity Human when your fellow Undercity residents see you as emergency rations.
Everybody waffling on about how the faction conflict is dull like it’s not actually the writers that are to blame for the story’s quality.
Amazin’.
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Nah, I’d say we were mostly defending ourselves.
Most of those attacks were retaliations because we knew the attacks would keep coming unless we destroyed the source.
The same idea behind Alliance and Horde and why they keep trying to kill each other to no avail, because the game would end if they did.
Alliance and Horde are the only factions that are gonna exist “forever”, we dismantle the rest. Scourge, Legion, Iron Horde, Twilight Cult, and so-on.