The problem is that both are bad. War and peace. Look at the Worgen and Night Elves. How much suffering the Horde has repeatedly inflicted on them, and now they invite their literal murderers to tea parties because they say they won’t do it again. Is that realistic?
We’ve had several expansions where the lore was abysmally bad, and if you take off your nostalgia glasses, you’d admit that there were already multiple retcons and questionable things in TBC. WoW’s lore is simply beyond saving. That’s something we should have come to terms with a long time ago. You don’t play WoW for the story; there are plenty of other games for that.
One of the reasons why gameplay has taken precedence for me for a long time, and accordingly, the last ridiculous restrictions for players should be lifted. This means all races for both factions, as well as city mounts and transmogs, except for PvP sets.
It was actually Guardian/Council of Tirisfal, I’d say, with the last one being Medivh, or actually now Khadgar.
And they still did their jobs, Medivh warned everyone of the Burning Legion invasion coming in Warcraft 3, he initially got Thrall to create the Horde.
Khadgar later took up the mantle and helped us all as well.
They were neutral, of all races that were mages, but they stopped existing as a council once Aegwynn kinda went rogue, and now there’s only one.
While I mostly agree, bad lore can really damage the game and people’s desire to play.
cough Shadowlands…
Are they though? Factions in MMOs predate WoW (Dark Age of Camelot). One could also argue that WvW in games like Guild Wars 2 constitutes a form of faction as well. This isn’t specific to Warcraft.
I think threads like this prove that the faction stuff should be alive and well. Just look at all the people that get up in arms over fictional characters in a video game that’s 20 years old… Imagine you were those characters and you had to live through what either faction was doing to the other… do you think, ever, in a million years that you’d just up and forgive them when your family and friends were killed off? Your land destroyed? Everything you knew trampled?
We go to war for much, MUCH less in the real world, let alone what the characters in WoW have gone through with the faction stuff.
There is NO reason why the two factions should get along… ever.
Peacecraft is the only option you will have. Take responsibility for a ruined war faction system, storytelling and overall awful race representation on both sides.
I’m legitimately killing so many things on the way to kill a major threat. There’s so much violence in this game. I’m constantly at war with something.
Orcs v Humans felt stupid after Wrath. It made a little sense in Cataclysm, two groups of people struggling for resources following an apocalypse scenario, but we came together and destroyed that threat.
Stop acting like the game’s identity is based on Horde vs Alliance. That only makes sense if you PVP and haven’t paid attention to anything else since Warcraft 3.