People for some reason think you can only time keys within the max reward key level of 15 with meta specs. There is the problem. Sometimes it is because the group is looking for something specific though like a battle res or lust. When I was trying to complete KSM with 2 others we got declined from multiple groups even having 7/8 15s completed and a 14 of the specific dungeon. Mind you a tank and healer also. For some people it’s VDH/Resto or get out.
Patronizing always works. No wait, it doesn’t.
No wonder no one wants you in their groups.
Takes me like 10 minutes to get into a group; sounds very much like a you problem.
Extra sad points for being horde, the most populated faction with 10 times as much M+ activity.
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I love a good shadow priest in M+, they do good dps and bring one of the most useful but over looked skipping tool of any spec on top of their other useful utility.
10 minutes as a boomkin which is a pretty much meta class as they have strong ST, amazing aoe, and a brez? Yeah - wonder why it doesn’t take you very long.
Spriests are the lowest picked in mythic plus. The OPs Raider io is 100 pts less than yours yet they are 2858 in the world while you’re way behind at ~6600.
That should show you the difference of how easy it is to get into keys as one class versus another.
My guildmate pugged KSM on both his Spriest and Brewmaster, hell i timed some 14s using 2 Priests (him and our Holy Priest healing officer). Every single MDI team used a Disc Priest.
While pugging sucks rn i feel there’s more to it than that.
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That right there is your problem.
I don’t play boomkin, I play druid. As a hybrid class, I’m flexible with my role; half of my 15’s were done as resto.
Step out of your comfort zone, fill the group’s needs and people may consider you.
Basically this. I was 3k IO last season, this season I think I’ve ran a couple 5’s out of boredom. Loot nerf killed M+ for a lot if people, and making it where all tanks have to kite didn’t help either.
If it wasn’t for PVP I would have stopped playing all together.
Disc requires people to know how to play as we don’t have the mana to keep saving people from failing so if they say no disc it means they suck… everytime i watch that stupid m+ world champion sht its always a disc priest… clearly the pro choice.
I dont even bother anymore. I main a BM hunter. DPS is already disadvantaged, and once they see a non optimal class then its goodbye. The only ones I can get are the ones I already outgear.
I gave up on M+ long ago. Did it a few times with a guild until the tank quit for another guild. Tried pugging a few times, was only successful when I had a low level key, but that’s gone now.
Sadly you kinda have rely on pugs for mythic+ its hard to do with my guild since they don’t do it anymore…
Oh I’m sorry - you have two of your best dungeons completed in healer spec which means it’s your dps spec that dominates your raider io.
You talk about “playing druid” yet your guardian spec has the lowest IO and yet tanks/healers are always the most needed in M+ over dps…
Keep going on and trying to spin truth however you like. You just keep showing that you have less and less of a clue on what you’re talking about.
That’d be like me saying how easy it is to get KSM and using my VDH as my example. Oh yeah, it was easy on my tank who doesn’t raid and has a less ilvl than my main. That’s how I got KSM.
So, please… just stop.
As far as i played, there was no good balance. Always some class had some advantages. Mage and hunter for bloodlust , druid and dk for battle ress. rogue for shroud,melee class for short interrupt cd.
and it is people who cause this problem. I mean if you do an 13 key , you can time it with a priest doing 4.6k dps, or a hunter doing 4.8k dps. also it depends on player. a fotm mage can do 3.7k dps overall, but a meh priest can do 5k dps.
My point is problem is player’s perception. you can never break it. If loot was good, everyone would push 15+ for gearing up. then OP would get declined for keys around 18-19-20 and still come in forums and complain about it.
My main’s rio is around 900. I get declined as a resto druid from most groups for 10-11-12 keys.
I would have made my own group after 5-10 minutes; most people trying to join a group don’t care.
Look deeper.
OP only has healed a handful of dungeons, yet cites “I’m even willing to heal” as further incentive to invite him, when the reality is, his raider IO isn’t amazing for getting into 15s. You list a 15 key, you instantly get 1,300 raider IO DPS applying-- him being a Priest is irrelevant at that point.
Pugging as a DPS is tough, and Priest DPS do have it tougher than meta DPS. However, complaining about not getting into 15s because you’re a Priest when your raider IO is 1,100 (which his was at the time of creating the post) is just inaccurate. It’s not about him being a Priest. It’s about him having a lower score than the 100s of DPS applying.
Also, anyone doing a 15 would see OP’s healer score and not even think about inviting them as a healer. They’re basically applying only as a DPS.
Oh look. It’s another meta class trying to equate.
My VDH got me KSM this week because it’s stupidly easy to get into keys as a meta. Less ilvl, but still stupidly easier.
Our complaints are valid.
My Shadow Priest guildie got it this week, too. On his Shadow Priest. What’s your point?
Sure not 3 hours come on their more peopled subb then ever according to most on this forum. Yeah makes me wonder exactly how many have unsubbed to be honest.
How come you didn’t mention what the exact levels you were queueing for was? I haven’t gone through and read any other comments yet but I’d be willing to bet there’s at least one person who gave you the 200iq start your own group comment which would have saved you a few hours.