It worked better because Blizzard eventually begin shifting the focus of Frost from a 2H spec, initially, to a DW one since DW provided a more regular DPS for PVE. There is nothing necessarily or inherently better about DW as compared to 2H specs, it just depends on what Bliz wants to focus its time on within a given spec. Evidenced by Legion, Bliz clearly, at some point, decided to favor a DW focus for Frost, despite the lore.
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“Fake news” from ya.
yawn
Well, yeah. Breath build has been allowed to fester and fits damage profiles for the raid bosses we’re doing. It got buffed, and Frost is still low.
Okay, I guess Unholy uses Frost and the ghouls it raises are figments of our fevered imaginations.
I’m not saying you’re wrong for wanting 2h Frost. I’m just saying at this point, it’s hard to say if it’ll happen again. If it does, more likely cosmetic than anything else.
Yes, it does.
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=45524/chains-of-ice
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I guess you have to be pendantic as part of the bit.
I’m talking the core of its identity. Maybe that was unclear to you.
Well, I mean I had already mentioned the ghoul and you brought it up anyway, so I thought I should follow suit.
Unholy: Uses a combination of diseases and ice magic. Uses very little melee.
Frost: Uses a combination of ice magic and diseases. Uses very little melee.
Sure is distinct.
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I don’t see how anyone can argue that Unholy doesn’t feel extremely Necromancer-ish (i.e. spell caster-ish). Your primary source of DPS is casting diseases and sending pets on your targets. You only physically attack a target to affect those diseases and buff your pet. I mean, technically, you are physically attacking targets, but you’re doing that to further your DPS spells and pets. You’re basically a necromancer in plate.
Frost specifically uses strikes to deal direct damage, not primarily to apply DPS focused debuffs or to buff pets.
There is a distinct difference in the feel of the specs.
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Precisely my point.
It is distinct if you don’t grossly oversimplify it. (And don’t state falsehoods.)
And continuing to be pedantic is not going to make you correct in whatever it is you’re going with.
No, stating facts is what makes me correct. 
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Which facts might those be? I haven’t seen any from you about this particular vein of conversation.
Frost and Unholy are extremely distinct. If you can’t see that, nobody can help you.
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tfw frostscythe nearly outdpses the move that is intended to be your mainstay ability, Obliterate, because skills work off of weapon speed and Obliterate scales best with slow weapons.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The critical component that Frost is missing is strong melee with cleaving capabilities. Every single melee spec has either strong melee abilities and/or melee cleave. Most have both. Frost is the only spec that has neither. The only multi-target abilities are Howling Blast and Breath of Sindragosa. Howling Blast is only even effective if it gets Rime, which is dictated by RNG, and even then it has to be individually procced each time. Sigh. Okay, I’ll admit it. We have Frostscythe too. An ability that does no damage without, again, a proc.
DW didn’t “work better”. It was significantly behind 2H and was garbage until it got a passive, a slew of buffs, Frost’s change in mechanics to suit its playstyle, and the supremo-mega buff it got in legion so it would actually do damage. Except, the melee doesn’t do damage. We’re talking hitting people for 5% of their HP with bursting Obliterates and Frost Strikes, after Dual-Wielding damage was increased by at least 700% by the time Legion rolled around. If 2H’s damage were to be upped 8 times over, we’d be two-tapping with auto-attacks.
Dual-Wielding is not better.Being suited to a poorly-built system doesn’t determine the quality of the build. We are a melee spec. There is no reason we should have zero sustained, reliable melee cleaving abilities/capabilities. It might suit the current playstyle, which is demonstrably flawed and extremely illogical for a melee class, yet that doesn’t equate to “better”. But yea, we are unique. Why? Because Frost is the only instance in human history where we have melee attacks empowering magic, instead of magic supplementing and empowering my melee attacks. Analogy? Sure. Normally, melee/magic hybrids use magical power to buff their melee weapon’s effectiveness to whatever extent. Frost? Haha. Frost essentially functions on the grounds of attacking enemies with cold air, and then flailing their arms with butter knives to increase the velocity of the wind.
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Okay.
Coolbeans, but…
Lolno. This is wrong, and if this is the entire foundation for what you see as the basis of each spec, then I can see why you’re spewing such blatant falsehoods.
Unholy uses a combination of diseases, undead minions, and some melee attacks. Frost/Ice/Whatever is not a predominant or even remotely relevant part of its kit. Unholy has exactly two spells that are “Frost”, Icebound Fortitude and Chains of Ice, which by design it has to have simply to not be gimped compared to Frost in terms of having a dCD + slow.
Frost predominantly uses close-range Frost/Ice/Whatever magic and barrages of overbearing melee swings. The only “Unholy” tool it uses is [CURRENTLY] Raise Ally. It has no other Unholy crossover abilities at the moment. It ONLY utilizes Frost and weapon-based attacks. It has no pets, it has one DoT that has no interaction with the rest of the baseline kit, and even when it does get Raise Dead you can easily just throw it into the “bundle of shared tools” that Mind Freeze, Icebound Fortitude, Chains of Ice and Death Strike [a Blood ability! Wow, are Unholy and Frost just slight variants of Blood???] fit under as "generic abilities most DKs share."
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Frost fever. A disease.
It’s one of the most important parts of its kit, if you do PVP.
Either way? Obliterate and Frost Strike are not big DPS pulls for Frost. You know what is?
Breath of Sindragosa.
Frostwhelps.
Both are spell damage. You know what else is a spell damage spec?
Unholy.
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Ooh, cool. (See what I did there?)
Sure, read what I said right after.
Ahh, the beauty of not quoting out of context. Shame you aren’t familiar with it.
You’re arguing… spec and talent balance… in a discussion about the spec identity.
Even so, you’re still wrong either way.
Nice mental gymnastics there. I guess if we applied this broad logic to everything in this game, then everything within is just something else, right? Newsflash Affliction and Destruction, since Destruction has a DoT, you’re both DoT spec! Newsflash Frost DK and Frost Mage, since both of you have spells you’re both predominantly spellcasters!
Miss me with this absolute trash that is you refusing to acknowledge anything but your own narrowminded view. I’ll just throw this thread on a solid ignore, this just got really old. Have fun being wrong, friend.
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I always approve of puns.
You were being intellectually dishonest and devaluing Chains of Ice – implying all specs of DK receive it – which Blood does not.
False. I’m very much arguing class identity. There is no DPS spec that relies on melee to do its big DPS. Not Frost. Not unholy.
Don’t know if you remember, but Arthas dueled Illidan. It left such a profound mark upon him that he made it a thing that all Death Knights are forced to do.
Quick question, how high does Obliterate rank on your Recount? 
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You are talking about dps.
Frost fever is also frost damage but somehow that means it’s unholy?
Also frost strike is also frost damage which is magic damage or as you put it, spell damage.
The playstyles of unholy and frost are different. One uses a combo point type system while the other, at least currently, Revolves around a 2m cooldown to do damage. Also obliterate and frost strike do damaged based on attack power, it doesn’t matter what weapon you have, either 2 1h weapons or 1 2h it still equals out to 120% attack damage and is at this point entirely dependant on resources.
It doesn’t revolve around BoS. “Revolves” suggests that the abilities of the specialization are built to supplement the power of, or enable the consistent use of the ability. BoS is just a go-to cooldown for brainless DPS burst. Frost’s core mechanics are Obliterate critical strikes and Howling Blast procs. This system is illogical though, because Obliterate is almost if not always last in damage behind all the other Frost abilities, due to its extremely low base damage yield. This is why Frost needs to be redone.
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This is extremely disingenuous. BoS requires planning, lining up of multiple CDs, and active management to maintain and maximize that is not just your usual rotation. If you’re using it brainlessly, you’ll barely use it at all. I understand that it’s a divisive talent, and it’s not everyone’s preference, but it’s a far cry from brainless. That’s just not true. You can call out PoF for being a brainless DPS boost that does nothing to change your play if that’s a note you really want to harp on.