Demo warlock has been delete from the game in nokud +20 my overall was 105k and 100k, now is 60k lol they are retarded dont know how balance a classs, or they hate warlocks
It can’t be a coincidence that the top ten players on raiderio all jumped ship from affliction back to destro after the nerfs…. And on a different issue it appears that none of the top players appear to be using the Onyx band… it apparently is a dps loss for warlocks I assume?
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In AoE it doesn’t perform very well.
I’m not actively raiding so going off my logs wouldn’t yield you any data that’s worthwhile. PI out of the picture, destro IS doing better and you need to go recheck your log data from wol. Aff is a solid spec but it shouldn’t be doing leaps and bounds better than destro so they brought it more in line.
As it sits now this week should represent actual data since we’ve had bugs and nerfs finally get settled, so you can judge better off that. Aoe high mythic keys is what I was talking about too, not the current vault raid though they do pretty solidly there too from what people are saying in the discord.
Except no.
Aff has been out performing destro because of raid design, not class design. Vault is very, very, very hostile to Destroy locks, with every fight having constant moving/repositioning mechanics from low (Kurog, Dathea) to omfgwtfbbq like Sennarth and Razegeth. Destro, at least my own parses, was 3-5k solid DPS ahead of my Aff parses when both are able to sit around and not worry about that stuff.
Targeting aff to bring it in line with Destro is disingenuous with current content. Perhaps 10.1 revealed something more that isn’t seen as things stand, but otherwise they have decided nerfs based on thematics (Sac) or bugged parses and the like. Though, to be fair, it’s better to smash these kinds of things down early and not let them fester. It is frustrating to see if, especially to experience it first hand, but still better to hit it early
I mean they DID say they were doing those changes specifically to bring it in line, so I’d assume they meant all other specs of dps which would include… destro. 10.1 will show a lot more but we’ll just have to see as time progresses.
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Oh no, this nerf for Affliction was to pull back their strength. They claim it’s because they removed less utilized talents, when they meant was they removed talents no sane warlock took because it was utter garbage and replaced it talents that were actually useful. Then they realized ‘Since their talents aren’t as atrocious as rotten apples anymore, they actually do good/great damage when buffed by externals such as PI or WF. Gotta nerf them into line.’
Of course, I question why Affliction, whose primary damage is entirely single target, isn’t even the best spec for single target damage. Destro takes that title, though with their horrible mobility maybe that is the trade of? (As well as two targets, and 10+ targets with RoF chain spam)My opinion, anyway.
Destro wasn’t targeted directly persay, nerfing Sacrifice has pushed them out of the talent for PVE content (PVP w/o Sacrifice may as well be a lesson in self mutilation for non-demo locks). They otherwise weren’t nerfed in the slightest. Though basing a nerf on Sac entirely for a thematic reason is as idiotic as saying the Doomguard is a useful pet with absolutely no downsides.
Demo… how did this even happen? The entire 10.7 lead up came with the Dev’s stating, repeatedly, that the spec is under-performing massively in ST. Their MT was fine, nothing overwhelming to the point other AE specs weren’t keeping up, but I guess they felt it was. I’m sure they realized they essentially undid all their work to bring up demo-locks ST damage profile by nerfing their two biggest damage amps in both ST and MT, hence why they’ve stated they would continue to monitor it.
I refuse to believe Blizzard is so ignorant of the Demo’s hilariously overpowered Nether portal opening for parses like Eranog to justify this MT nerf. That fight can, and has, lasted less than 2 minutes when the Demo Lock’s effective DPS is still dropping like a stone after the initial slam with Pit Lord is done and dusted.
This is all my opinion, take it with a grain of salt.
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I still did 112k over all in a NO 20 after the nerfs yes its a big hit but you can still do it
And then you see Retry Palys doing 200k+ dps on every pack without 4 tier pieces AFTER the smallest nerf on the game history. They just hate warlocks.
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Yes, but Ret are melee and are therefore allowed to dominate.
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Yeah I really don’t get it. If the damage is the same, why waste a point?
I’ve only come up with two answers:
First is that it means I don’t have to worry about my pet being out of range of the target I want interrupted (or me for a dispel, etc). Pretty niche but … whatever.
Second is … because of pets despawning/pathing problems on fights like Sennarth. Because pet pathing is basically always a thing. So for the low, low cost of just one talent point you can overcome Blizzard’s failure to handle pet pathing issues!
This should be a class tree talent. This is where the QOL no damage increase talent should all be.
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Last DPS on council. Was able to beat the tank … barely … Nice nerf. Very nice nerf. Almost tempted to cancel my account. Ty blizzard. I forgot how i *** hate Guillotine as a talent. I guess I’ll have to start playing it again …
This is not a blizzard or demo problem.
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Actiually what’s the general overall dps for demo in mythic plus in says keys 18s? I know its gear dependent.
In non tyrannical weeks. Guess i could pull a long from the mythice plus groups.
It will vary drastically from dungeon to dungeon and what other dps are contributing. Probably 70-80k on the low end. Algethar pushes above 120 depending on the tank.