I suppose that at the end of the day it is easier to completely avoid all the points that have been explained about why this method is bad and why you should stop taking BMAH as a base to say how the method of obtaining T3 should be, which is what has been discussed for 1 week, I know there are many comments, but if you stop to look at all of them you will clearly understand the problem.
People are annoyed because you need to make an excessive gold investment (2.8m in weaves and then 1m more in someone who makes the materials like undeath metal), then on top of that you are stuck behind RNG to get only 1 lamented piece and well, in the end if you are not in an empty realm where there is no one who has the full T3 to make you the material that only they can create, there are too many blockers in obtaining T3, if you read my comments you would understand the problem more thoroughly that they have these blockers, and that it is not crying because it is not free or fast, the simple fact that many claim that this method is BMAH 2.0 and it is fine is absurd, this new method is not aimed at a player who could not obtain it in BMAH because of the high gold prices they had, it is aimed at the minority that was already obtaining it in BMAH and therefore, it is bad and unnecessary that it exists.
Iâve deduced that alot of the individuals defending this system want it to be as hard as possible for others to get. They donât want blizzard to change it. Why? Because if more people have it, the less they get to flex. Why? Because if others get it in a potentially easier/cheaper/more efficient way than the BMAH, then it âunderminesâ all the work THEY invested doing it themselves, which was through the BMAH.
its a gold sink, they could have left the sets completely out of the game after the first take out⌠be glad you can farm them again.
this method was made for those who canât get it via BMAH and have the gold to sink into it. this is what it is⌠a massive gold sink⌠just like the AH mount from BFA
The two are not the same. You were guaranteed the BFA mount so long as you had the gold without any pre-requistes, any RNG, and at a fraction of the price that T3 ever cost. except for the few that got T3 in naxx/pre 5 million+ gold cap
Additionally, the Brutosaur mount was introduced during a time that the game was broken and farming gold was far easier than it is now. (Believe me or dont, IDC but twilight dev+Dh & FH = the easiest gold cap iâve ever seen).
Furthermore, while I do agree that being able to receive T3 still is nice, itâs not like they ever fully intended on taking it out of the game. (There was a small period of time the set wasnât available in the nearly 20 years that WoW has been out)
This forum post, and the hundreds of comments on it (give or take a few trolly comments) is trying to address the problem that isnât some sort of instant gratification issue that many seem to comment it being. Itâs a forum post addressing valid concerns about a very poor system.
Is it a more âguaranteed way to obtain T3?â Maybe?. Is it an alternative to the BMAH? Technically yes. Are there plenty of flaws in this system that completely contradict the logic behind instilling it in the first place? Abso-freaking-lutely.
itâs a gold sink, thatâs what it is. Itâs not meant to be free for everyone, itâs suppose to take time and effort. Itâs the same as any BMAH item or a gold sink mount. Nothing is different. just a different reward for the effort.
The ONLY problem would be finding crafters at the start of this process. That is it. Your making something out of nothing because it doesnât align with your wants/wishes.
Whoâs said it was supposed to be free? I donât think iâve seen anyone say that. Additionally, I donât see anyone saying it shouldnât take time or effort.
Youâre free to believe whatever you want to believe, but if Blizzard willingly puts in an alternative to the BMAH, it goes without saying that the new method of obtaining an item was intended to be a different system than the BMAH. Otherwise, why wouldnât they just keep the BMAH the way it was instead of creating extra work.
I know they discussed a minor part of the BMAH, but that was a year and a half ago.
I think they really need to address BMAH accessibility and other issues as a whole though, rather than laser focusing on one particular item. Improvements to the BMAH as a whole can help make T3 more accessible.
Thereâs nothing difficult either about having to farm Wrath Naxx for these sets. There is no reason to make the drop late so low.
Itâs strange that some people respond with âgood itâs working as intended thenâ and âitâs not easy you gotta earn it!â as if farming Naxx is a challenge and finally earning it is rewarding? There isnât anything difficult about clearing naxx 600 times. Itâs just tedious!
Well,as of now,I wouldnât bother in this endeavor,I would love to have the old set but it no longer exist so that set is the only one available which requires a lot of jump through hoops to get. I already done enough of that in the game,no thanks.
Why do we still base this new method on BMAH? If the idea is that it was to spend millions of gold as you mention, then you are confirming that the existence of this new method is unnecessary, since in essence it repeats the same thing as BMAH but worse, letâs stop using BMAH as the basis of how T3 should return please, people who didnât get it before BMAH is because they didnât have the necessary gold to fight for it, and this new method doesnât help that purpose either, itâs not asking that it be free since nobody has suggested that in almost 300 comments, itâs asking that it be reasonable , 2.8m gold in vendor mats + 800k-1m in spend as undeath metal and then fight with RNG to get the lamented pieces is overkill for something theyâre supposed to be difficult, if youâre going to make a new method to give accessibility to other players make it reasonable for an average player to get even if it takes 3-4 months.
They are supposed to slightly increase the drop rate of lamented parts and weaves in dented, but I havenât been able to observe it myself yet because I keep farming, when Iâm done Iâll try and give my fullest opinion, but I insist that that small drop rate increase is still insufficient and the devs should understand that they went to an unreasonable extreme just to keep those who got this one from BMAH happy.
Im ok with the gold sink. The game needs some asperational sinks and this is a fun one.
What I donât like is requiring a person with the set to be able to make the thing to cleanse it. Iâve been trying to workorder it but so far no luck
My thoughts exactly. The gold price and the low drop rate from the Dented tokens are obnoxious, but the Feat of Strength requirement on the recipes is the part that I think is really dumb. It just gives the auction house barons a means to gatekeep people from getting it.
Whenever cross realm trading is back up, I can make all 4 of the items on Whisperwind, made a post on my server with my characters that can craft the items.
Sadly no, you would (once cross realm trading is back up) create a character on Whisperwind, mail the items to the character cross realm (including the lamented piece) get a mage port to Valdraken and place the order for the conversion item.
