2 manning heroics in blues? not good for the game

There is no justifiable reason Wrath heroics should be so easy that a tank and healer can 2 man them at the launch of the expansion, and yet that is exactly what is happening now on the beta.

People in pre bis blues are two-manning…this means the heroics need buffs, possibly even more than the naxx ones.

For those of you who disagree and think this is ‘gatekeeping’ by making things a little harder…guess what…if tanks and a healer can 2 man heroics, guess who isn’t going to get invited to any groups? All the DPS…

and this is with OR without RDF. If a tank and healer can 2 man the heroics they will do that and never use RDF and be less incentivized to invite DPS, because guess what? they will get all the gold, gems, orbs, and epics for themselves. They might even start “selling” spots. Easy doesn’t necessarily mean accessible, it might make things worse. Needing 3 DPS should be the bare minimum difficulty. We aren’t talking Heroic Magisters Terrace or Blood Furnace here, but the the mobs need to pack more of a punch.

Blizzard, we need a buff to the heroics. If you don’t want to make the heroics cumbersome, you don’t need to necessarily buff the trash mobs, but at least buff the bosses so that they need 3 DPS to kill before the healer goes oom. Or add a faster enrage timer.

+100% health, +50% damage, +30% attack speed, and faster cooldowns on their mechanics.

This should be something both ANTI RDF and Pro RDf people can get behind, because whatever side of the coin you fall on, it won’t matter if the tanks and heals are doing the stuff alone, the two least played and most needed specs will leave the DPS out to dry. And this is coming from a tank player. I will 100% not invite DPS if I can get all the items myself. I’d much rather though, have a fun experience with 5 people that requires bare minimum CC and decent attention.

proof:

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ok here is a question are u doing the heroic achievments 2maning it

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Got some receipts to back this up?

Just asking.

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an arms warrior and holy pally just showed themselves doing a few of the heroics by themselves, ahlaundo or whatever his name is.

So that’s a no. Just rumor.

Got it.

I will wait for solid proof and not chicken little stuff for now.

Besides, if two skilled players want to do this, then go for it. It’s not an issue for every player however and it definitely will not be a quick endeavor.

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RDF has an ilvl requirement to queue for heroics.

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isnt that normal? i remember back in the days i was watching poeple solo stuff and im pretty sure i was soloing TK keal thas on my warlock. wotlk is where you feel the power creep

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Heroics in Wrath are meant to be easy badge and prebis farms, it was that way from the get-go. They were never intended to be gear checks like TBC Heroics. They are fine as is because the ‘challenge’ of heroics comes from getting the Achievement Mounts.

It makes doing the more challenging version of fights optional and that is great for the other people who just want to get in and get out.

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its not a rumor, here is one of their recordings

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RDF isnt in Wrath at least for the time being

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yeah I mean I remember getting my fury warrior friend to tank 2-3 bosses at a time in Halls of Stone and UP with all the trash with me as disc

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It should be!

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came in to stir the pot. Also i agree lol

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Perfect. Thank you for the link.

Looks like a good challenge and nothing that needs to be BUFFED.

Again, thank you for posting the link.

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This is the content non-rdf peeps wanna gatekeep lmaooo

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Seems harmless too. Watching the video and it looks like the unrelenting assault build (looking at the Revenge CD reduction as a clue) for warriors. it was nerfed at some point then brought back into the scene towards the end of wrath iirc.

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Yes - the irony of this post was not lost on me… lol…

RDF people - “But RDF has an ilvl requirement and assigns DPS to the group”

RDF solves this

No, it isn’t, RDF does not assemble a group of a healer & tank and teleport them into the dungeon.

Sounds like something anti-RDF people want so they can continue gatekeeping and making money from invite spots.

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You can tell by Blizzards track record that they agree that the heroics need to be buffed by how difficult cata heroics were compared to LK, checkmate casuals get out of here with your ezmode dreaming.

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you’re clueless. tanks and healers won’t use RDF even if it is in the game if they can 2 man it. even with rdf in the game you can still fly to the dungeon normally. lol

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Welcome to Wrath. If you want difficult dungeons, there’s always Retail. But what is the point in turning the Wrath experience into the Retail experience? This is what players expect in Wrath.

This “it’s too easy. It needs to be buffed”…how did that work for SoM? A lot of players just want to steamroll content, and these are just dungeons. So let them. The e-sport Retail WoW is that way —->

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