15 renown for flying is ridiculous

How or why are you playing a game that makes you ill? Maybe you should have sat the expansion out entirely if it causes you problems to where you cant play the game? Were about 10 months in. So thats about $200 dropped to not even experience the game play.

Pathfinder has been a thing since Legion. You can probably guarantee it will be in future expansions. And every time its based on the same thing. Rep and exploring. The fundamental game play since day 1 in 2004. You get things by exploring and rep grinds.

Hm? I haven’t seen anyone in this thread hating on flying.

Which, now that you mention it, IS strange. :thinking:

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Wait until Ritahayworth swaps to another sockpuppet and remembers that their ignore list doesn’t transfer over.

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No many of us what the old style back…where we made it too max level of the current new expansion and we walk right over too the main city Flight Master and drop 5k or 10 or heck 100K to fly our normal mounts we have spent years acquiring…not some puff dragon that only glides and runs out power if you don’t do it right…seems my Love Rocket never runs out of fuel and can fly all over the place…my Headless Horseman mount never runs out of power to keep flying …so on and on…

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Actually Pathfinder was added with WoD not Legion…

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Every expansion after WoD had Pathfinding that forced you to not fly on flying mounts till you ether had rep or completed a long quest chain.

Again why is flying a problem? If people don’t want to fly then use your ground mounts problem solved. But not everyone wants to use a ground mount.

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It’s a fairly long-ish grind (1-month-ish of nonstop play with 5-6 factions) for a lackluster reward (being able to slow-fly on all your old cool mounts), yes.

Pathfinder is normally a big deal because you can’t normally fly in the first place, in the newer zones, but now it’s kinda been made redunant.

I was under the impression we’d be able to dragon-ride on our old mounts, but since it’s looking like that’s not the case, I’m not really excited at all, and likely won’t bother unless I happen to get it by accident or something.

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Except Dragonflight where we unlocked flying the first hour.

Its not the player base attacking flying…its Ion trying to control when we can fly …to the point we were not going to be able to fly at all for the whole expansion of WoD…that set off a riot in the forums to the point they had to give in and come up with path finder to slow us down…that is all Path finder is …is a mech to slow us down…

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You sure throw that ableist tag around alot against anyone who disagrees with you. Stop throwing your “oh woe is me” routine. Clint Eastwood said it best. A man has to know his limitations.

I think pathfinder is a good thing and easy to do. Doesnt require dragon riding or a mount of any kind to complete. Can be done without mounting once. “YOU” just choose not to do it so you can complain. Youre not being tasked with anything except playing the game to get a reward.

Its not a problem to the player base its a problem too Ion and his Dev …WoD he stated we were not going to be able to fly at all the whole expansion …well that set off a fire storm they gave in and put up Pathfinder…before all this mess…we use to be able to reach max level …walk over too nearest flight master and buy our flying and fly …simple as that…now its a 3 ring circus to when we actually ever get to fly with each new expansion…

Look at Shadowlands we got stuck with TWO Path finders for that expansion or did many of you forget what happened in Shadowlands when the added the last new zone…and we were grounded for a period of time and had to pathfinder that zone in order to fly when we had already been given flying for Shadowlands…

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Hate mythic dungeons. Hate Raids. Hate public group events. Hate questing and daily quests now apparently.

What do these people even login and do?

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It actually can’t be because there are places in the dragon isles, including the Emerald dream that can only be gotten to when dragon riding. There are certain NPCs that are up high with no pathway in 10.2.

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This should be a question at The Con.

“Why has regular flying been gated behind Renown?”

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I took a break midway through, so wasnt sure. I just knew it wasnt in MoP.

With so much gold out there, the only alternative is it costing half a million gold.

I know. “Why cost anything?”
To have people actually explore the zones and play the full game. Why design a full game if no one plays it? They just race to 70, raid/pvp/m+ then a few weeks later “im bored and have nothing to do!” So they time gate.

Nobody should be time gated or path finder gated…its a false way to play the game…and to heck with those to rush though and then say they have nothing to do …they’ll still say even with pathfinder being used …seen it happen …they’ll always complain. I know this player base all too well and what they will say and do.

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Well the important thing to them is that they log in to the forums.

To complain.

About everything.

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The renown levels we’re talking about were easily acquired by most players 4+ months ago (including Loamm).

There’s no time gating, here.

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Almost kinda wish flying was never introduced. And before anyone says anything, I use my ground mounts and flight paths most of the time. A flying mount I launch and hit numlock and do other things. The vigor system makes using the flight paths better for me anyway