No Av is not PvE, but I don’t see how that’s an argument for why AV shouldn’t take hours? I mean I could argue orginal AV had TONS of pve elements and could in one way be thought of as a raid.
1.12 AV routinely did take hours, despite the propaganda people are using to claim it was just zerged everytime.
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Most Blizzard employees are Hordies, and the only way for Horde to win AV is nerfed AV
People didn’t think dungeons could be AoE’d down on Classic either. Now we see people using Eye of Killrogg to pull 20 Elites and they’re being AoE’d down just like on BfA.
Also, I don’t know if you’ve done an AV on BfA recently. The mobs scale, even if you reverted the nerfs to NPCs in 1.12 AV, they’re going to eventually be extremely weak relative to the playerbase.
Yes, but it was still shortened. They took out tons of NPCs.
I don’t care about dungeons I don’t care what people are saying about them and I ESPECIALLY don’t care about BFA. stop
I’m here to voice my beliefs that original AV was a way more epic and memorable experience for me and many others than 1.12. Seriously don’t care about anything else.
The logistics of it all doesn’t matter. The feel of it does. I just think they should at the VERY least consider/test pre nerf version and maybe see how the community feels about it.
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You’re the one who brought “retail” up. I won’t stop, the design of 1.5 AV wouldn’t prevent a zerg if the players wanted a zerg.
They most certainly will, and they did then, too. But unless people broke off and did war contributions or focused on objectives with a group of people it always ended up in some turtle. (Turtles were fun as hell.)
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If there’s any single “no changes” thing I’d be more than content with letting slide, it’s if they bring back AV in it’s original, head bashing, stalemate form… And leave it for the duration of the server. This is definitely one change they made that ruined the experience.
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Stalemates were the best part.
This is patently false.
Though most of what you post is, it seems.
Which part of that post? Most of what I post is correcting pathological liars. Every once in awhile I’m wrong, I do admit.
Oh, you’re one of those people that think the damage of mobs in Classic is too low, because you played on private servers. You’re mad because I posted irrefutable evidence that the numbers are absolutely correct in every single case that’s been presented.
Oof.
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You have not posted irrefutable evidence because it does not exist. Good try though.
Also, furthering my point that most of what you post is either wrong or outright nonsense.
And who says oof ffs.
Where’s your evidence that Blizzard doesn’t have all the 1.12 data? Just making that up.
Lying is bad, mmmk.
They stated it.
Good Lord kid.
Oh, it should be easy for you to link their statement then. I’ll wait, liar.
Calling people liars because you don’t like what they say is pathetic.
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Lying because you don’t like the reality of the facts, is pathetic.
One mob tested is fact, cool.
Speaking with a wall is more productive than speaking with you, however. So I’ll move on.
who cares, AV is and always was trash.