It actually pains me how right I was about all this.
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Just wanted to say, this quote is misattributed. Plato never said that.
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They need to At least have the towers buff the generals
Just adding my voice to the discussion…
NERFED AV IN CLASSIC WOW IS A MISTAKE
Bring back original AV.
Using the nerfed, crap AV in classic wow is one of the bigger F-Us I’ve seen Blizz do to it’s more loyal playerbase.
What the actual F?
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This is indeed the most fair way to do things. But whenever it gets suggested the same people who claim they want original AV for the fun of it sudenly start whining about rewards
/shrug
So many of the people complaining never played 1.12 AV eh? This is pretty much what it was except ppl are a little faster at zerging now if everyone is on the same page. People have caught on to the zerg strats and went big D, turning them into hour long turtles anyway, so this entire thread is completely pointless.
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Also this isn’t anything like the regular retail version of AV. There’s not a single honest complaint in this entire thread.
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Almost as if one can have a perspective on more than one facet of a subject.
Funny how I haven’t seen you spout your reinforcements mantra since tuesday.
Activision, give us back the old AV!
We really need to stop using the word Blizzard, because that company cared about the game, and the gamers. What we have now is just a corporation.
Without reinforcements many games are indeed having their zergs broken?
I don’t need to repeat it as it’s happening in game and proving my point.
But I’m not the one upset about offering both versions of AV, it seems like the people who want original AV are the ones whining and crying about the idea.
What exactly are you attempting to say here?
Zergs are happening just as much as in reinforcement retail, if not moreso.
Perhaps you need a refresher on what you claimed about zergs in vanilla and that zergs were only a thing because of reinforcements. Not going to entertain your goalpost waggling further than that.
I am not upset at it, I am laughing at the idiocy of the suggestion, which is akin to giving players an option of raiding for epic gear or having it literally mailed to them for participating in a mount ride simulator.
This game sucks
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You claim along with other fear mongers was that all games would just be zergs. That is clearly not the case.
I’m sorry your claim was that all games would be zergs, my claim was that without reinforcements they wouldn’t be.
And guess what they aren’t.
No it’s the equivalent of letting players pick an option of the map they prefer.
But since you don’t like that option I guess you prefer the version we have. Just like me 
The thing is offering both versions only helps people who want the origin version.
Of course you just made it clear you actually don’t care about the old version since you just start whining about gear as soon as the option is brought up.
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Feel free to cite me saying that every one of them would be a zerg. In return I will quote every time we said that 1.12 would be a zerg and you pushing back with your reinforcement crap and denial that zergs would be a thing in 1.12.
I have yet to see evidence that you actually play classic, and are in this forum for any reason other than your admitted desire to troll because you did not get your druid changes. Pretending that the rewards and the version are mutually exclusive is part of your well worn troll.
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Where did anyone ever suggest they would have separate rewards? All people have suggested is that both versions be available so people like you can play what you want.
And since you don’t seem to know what impact reinforcements had on AV or how AV in classic is actually playing I see no evidence you have played either.
Give us the original AV.
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Are you truly this obtuse, or is that too an act?
Unlike you I have posted openly on both my vanilla character, my TBC character, and my classic character.
I get a chuckle of you once again ignoring what is actually happening in classic AV, to point at TBC mechanics. The impact that reinforcements had on AV at the time has ZERO RELEVANCE to what is happening in classic AV right meow.
Bigger mistakes for AV are these retards not balancing the classes when people que, theres either no fing tank or 1 healer.
Billion dollar company. Fix your garbage.
I dont think BG queues have ever class balanced have they?
They were always 1st come 1st served i thought?
I know i remember a few times back in the day getting into WSG, and there are 4 priests.
FWIW
I think if you put in AV 1.0 people currently would still do their best to zerg it