Oh I didn’t. And it wouldn’t have been the end of the world for me if they included the earliest version of AV. In fact I assumed that was what they would do. And I would check it out and try and have fun with it. I was just excited when I saw that my favorite version was the one they were including. Of course I didn’t have to stay in games (and usually didn’t). I just like feeling like I can see things through.
I think a one hour match is OK. Even a two hour match. But spending two hours with both sides dying to Korrak and neither making progress and me just casting an AOE over and over non stop? Not my cup of tea.
You really had me going until this part.
Let me introduce you to the other 2 BGs then. If all you got out of early AV was Korrak taking time to kill and you claiming to just AOEing, I fear you are not here to discuss in good faith.
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So because you don’t like it no one should.
Yeah that makes sense.
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Show me exactly where I said that. I simply was saying I liked 1.12 AV better than the older versions. Apparently I’m not allowed to have that opinion though.
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“It’s not my cup of tea.”
Nah there’s just a handful of people who want to whine about AV being 1.12 which was actually the most popular version of AV. There’s plenty of people who are perfectly fine with 1.12 AV.
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There will be more PVP in Lakeshire than in AV.
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1.12 is not retail AV. You still have to cap towers and kill belinda/orc general to clear the boss room.
We all have our favorite versions of games, genres, franchises, etc.
Even though I clearly prefer original AV, I do feel that 1.12 will be fine in the end as long as people attempt to fight and back-cap, and not just race.
Let people take grave yards. Don’t yell at people for taking the wrong thing. Let people fight.
Otherwise we’ll just get the race and people saying “let them win so we can re-queue”
that is the wrong attitude. Period.
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I feel that the original AV would be more “sticky” (to use a jordanism) and memorable, with less frequency of races with little pvp. More fleshed out and complete. More immersive.
It’s something people who do once or twice then abandon, so sure it might be memorable but it wouldn’t have much replay. Just like it didn’t in vanilla, there’s a reason the original AV was nerfed in the first place, during vanilla.
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Tbh I don’t think Blizzard is going to do old school AV not because they don’t want to but because they lost the code and the suits don’t want them to waste ressources remaking it when you can just pretend to have a strong stance about « most updated vanilla experience »
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How many times do people run any given instance?
AV as instanced content has endless replay value. It is a raid instance, and faction- competitive element of the game. Every match is different as you are not battling against static AI but rather the randomness of humans. HOWEVER, the more streamlined toward a certain efficiency (racing) then the less replayability it will have. Saying it doesn’t have much replay value is like saying football, paintball, etc have no replay value. One does not require shiny loot rewards to be replayable. The gameplay itself has enough of a following to make people return again and again.
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How can a BG that’s been stripped down and robbed of it’s identity be the definitive Classic version?
The only reason I’ve seen given for 1.12 AV being the better version is that the bg is over faster. A quick rep grind doesn’t make for a good bg. Nobody complains about how long the AB and WSG reps take because they are backed up by good gameplay.
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Someone earlier was claiming that it took hours to kill Korrak and all they did was AOE in the early versions.
I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they mis-remembered
I mean, Korrak in the early versions was not even a barrier in any way, but rather a side objective.
Correlation doesn’t mean causation…it wasn’t because no one played it. ![:sunglasses:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/sunglasses.png?v=6" ":sunglasses:")
They nerfed everything, 5 mans, raids, classes,etc…for many different reasons…
I’m still holding out hope they’ll do the right thing and not the easy thing but this isn’t the Blizz of old so I have my reservations. I know the live team and the people at the top aren’t really fans of this project(don’t want to invest time/money) and my bet is most of them hope it fails not only for their own narcissism but for their jobs as well.
The problem is, its not going to matter, Classic is going to be a hit and they’ll have to deal with the fall out.
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I have no idea what is being discussed here. Is this even English?
Yea I don’t remember AV games ever going like that but memory is a weird thing.
I’m gonna hope that this is just rumor but I’ve always suspected this was the case. It seems like the play for the WoW team is to somehow try to parley Classic into a revitalization of retail. Retail is their future after all.
I really don’t see how that could possibly happen though. Vanilla was such a good game it doesn’t seem like anyone could possibly prefer BfA.
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