11.1 Cartel Reputation Mounts are going to be bad!

The cartel reputation mounts are going to be an insane, miserable grind. First of all they’re the normal rep breakdown which means you need 42,000 rep total to get exalted, for each cartel. Then another 10,000 rep for a paragon box for a chance at a mount!!! Not to mention there’s going to be a 5th cartel that we need to grind to exalted and get a paragon box. Realistically the paragon mounts are the problem because it means you have to make the decision between getting 10k rep for a paragon box or moving on to another cartel to grind to exalted. Thats so stupid.

From my understanding and correct me if I’m wrong, we are only looking at about 3000 rep from weekly quests, that’s a minimum of 14 weeks for each cartel to get exalted, not including paragons. I’m sure we will be getting rep sprinkled in from the main campaign, side quests, etc but that’s only going to be for the first cartel you pick. Once you move on to the others, it’s weekly’s only.

This seriously needs to get fixed. As a mount collector who has done some crazy grinds, this is far too much, it’s so unbelievably, unnecessarily long.

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I agree it’s a terrible design choice (I was so happy when they stopped putting mounts in those boxes, WHY bring it back?) but I hate the zone so probably won’t try for the mounts anyway, lol.

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You’re wrong in the way you look at things. These mounts are not a goal for you to grind for, these mounts are a reward for players who keep playing the game for a long time, out of enjoyment. The way you talk it’s as if you hate every minute of this because you’re addicted to collecting mounts (that you most likely won’t use ever). There is a flaw in your perception of this system, and no flaw in the system itself.

And that’s not even talking about the people who complain they have nothing else to aim for after a few weeks into a patch, these high rep mounts are also serving this purpose. The idea that every rewards you subjectively want should always be obtainable within an amount of time you personnally subjectively judge to be acceptable, without blizz being able to know your play time per patch, is some of the silliest and higher level of entitlement I’ve seen around here.

Listen son, you either spend your time grinding to get it, or cry about it to not get it.

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Is the one recolor of the mount really that big of a deal?

You can just get the 3-4 other versions of the mount

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The way you responded to this just sounds like you search these forums for people who YOU think is complaining about something and then you draw out some long winded response that YOU think is smart and knowledgeable. The system is flawed and I’m not looking for a time frame to complete this that’s subjective to me. You never even looked at this system or you would see how obnoxious it is. All you do is try to act high and mighty above other people who think is complaining about something.

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After many complaints during Legion about paragon chests containing mounts, Blizzard said it was a bad idea. So bad, in fact, they did it again in Shadowlands.

Then, like they always do, they swung the pendulum the other way and in Dragonflight players got bupkis in paragon chests; a few pet charms, some useless potions, and inconsequential amounts of mats and vendor trash.

Now we’re back to this nonsense. I get that hardcore collecting is always a “YOU PROBLEM”, but they just can’t help themselves.

Instead – what they should have done from the jump in Legion – is tie the mounts to achievements. “Open X# of paragon chests for X faction” and the mount is guaranteed as an achievement reward.

Fortunately the battle pets they’ve put in the paragon boxes have all been cageable…but I can foresee at time where that changes, too.

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Yes, you’re wrong. Apparently, the mounts are not meant to be a handout at exalted.
Blizzard employees can do math too. They knew what they were doing.

Tried to keep this short for you, I hear you don’t like long winded answers.

I only want these two so I’m not quite as bothered but I guess if you want them all I might see your issue with this.

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I’ve been playing this game since the beginning and always understood the basic principle of “if I don’t do the work I don’t get the reward” no matter how it’s made. I skipped on tons of mounts or various other rewards because I didn’t want to put the work in, never cried about how the game should change to fit my available time or motivation.

And the result is this:
Me - I’m fine with whatever. Happy.
You - Complain on forums. Unhappy.

Tell me who is above the other? There is one, it’s not equal.

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Wow what an adorable response. There’s a difference between a handout and terrible system design. You obviously don’t know it

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They’ve heavily leaned on mounts as a crutch to get people to do things. Like 20 mounts get added every patch. Paragon boxes just scream engagement-hacking. Sad.

I’ve become numb to these additions.

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Tbf the system could definitely use some touches, but I agree.
There is so much of this entitled mentality. Its so wild to hear people almost demand things lol.

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Yea basically MMO’s are a grind. No shame in not liking grinds, but maybe the game isn’t best played if it’s not enjoyed. Plenty of people don’t like grinding. It’s not for everyone.

Eh, I am disappointed reading this. I don’t mind the rep grind but I thought the mounts were a currency thing. I should have done more research, I really hate paragon rep boxes.

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Then don’t grind for them, I know I won’t, I don’t need the new mounts that badly.

Here’s your mistake, I’m not unhappy. Regardless how flawed the system is and how blizzard doesn’t know what they’re doing, I’m still going to put the work in. My post was to show how dumb the rep was. Think about this way, if I get exalted with one cartel then the next week I need to make a decision to grind 10k for a paragon box or put the 10k into a new cartel. Thats dumb. Whereas in Shadowlands I could work towards Venari (or who ever it was in the maw) paragon box and Korthia paragon box at the same time

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ya idk why they went back to the OLD rep for each of the factions but i guess we got 6 months to grind it

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I don’t know saying something needs to be seriously fixed ( which is does) is demanding things lol. Also i don’t know I have an entitled mentality lol when I’m clearly showing a flawed system. It seems to me your mentality is always trying to point out “entitled” people lol

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OP has a point. No need to be snide with them. Blizz doing Blizz things doesn’t mean we have to accept it.

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Yeah I also post public complaints on the forums when I’m happy. Like what, dude, get real, be honest with yourself. I obviously don’t mean unhappy in life in general, you’re unhappy about a system in the game, you want it to change because you don’t have the mentality of accepting the fact that not everything is made for you to achieve.

Ok, you prefer one system over the other. That’s fine. Doesn’t mean they both have to be the same and doesn’t mean the SL one couldn’t be “better” by the same logic you’re using. Why should you be limited to working on just 2 at the same time instead of all of them? We can do this thing of constantly demanding things to be better/faster until everything is handed to us. Ultimately the game needs grinds, they are content to fill the time, you do them until you’re bored then you go do something else that’s how it works in any game.

You’re not showing anything “clearly”, your reasoning for why you subjectively believe the system is flawed is because it’s longer than a previous similar system. It’s fair to say you think it’s too long for you or that you prefered the previous one, but that doesn’t make it flawed. They work the same way, you put in time and effort, at the end you get rewarded, just because the end line is further down the road doesn’t make it flawed.

And this is why they will keep making these grinds that you hate. You want them to know the grind sucks? Quit before finishing it. In their numbers you will show as someone who didn’t complete it. If you show as someone who did complete it, all they read is that you’re willing to give them money to make you run the threadmill and you’ll take more of that for dessert.

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