Yes I understand. The comments were specific to this thread. Now we have more ways to get high level gear besides raiding. Making it more equal for all play styles
I’ve always thought that gear from one specific content should be the best in that content. Like a 400 piece of raid gear should be better than a 400 piece of PvP gear in a raid, but worse in PvP.
I agree that resilience and hit/expertise kind of separated the gear paths which was a good thing. And there was always room for some overlap, like a couple PvP pieces in a raid wasn’t going to kill you.
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My playstyle is to AFK in org. Can i have some loot? Or were you just saying youre glad high end gear drops for you and your playstyle?
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Maybe if people complain enough they will start giving out 400 ilvl epics for ERP in Goldshire.
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If that happens ill just screech
wHy dO YOu CArE wHaT oTHeRs GeT?!
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Have you ever felt, at any point, that there isn’t enough to do in this game?
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I’m not really sure what you’re implying. Does farming old or trivial content for titanforges count as content now? Can you clarify the point of that question?
Edit: It is not my intention that this be read in a hostile or rude way.
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I have not looked at the market for gear lately. But yes it may be possible you can be afk in org, wait for stuff to sell and buy your gear.
And i bet you have the intelligence to understand what meant. I could be wrong.
Why do you care about turtle trinkets? Most of them are badly itemized compared to something like https://www.wowhead.com/item=165571/incandescent-sliver&bonus=4798:1507 which you actually do have to raid to get.
But then id actually have to click the AH and thats not my playstyle
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I’m going to go ahead and chime in here.
What bothers me the most about titanforging is the lack of control you have. I get that gear still drops today like it always has, but historically we had tools like reforging, more gem sockets, and more enchants available to bolster our stat of choice. Now we’re we’re heavily reliant on RNG and stat choice is completely thrown out the window when we get a beefy titanforge.
RNG on top of RNG is feels awful in a reward system, and you can pretty much guarantee that any reward system in the future that has more than one layer of RNG with not be well received. Right now loot can roll tertiary stats, warforge, titanforge, and sockets on a random chance to drop a random piece from the loot table.
If WoW was more Diablo where you could grind and grind and grind until you get every piece that you want, I think it titanforging would feel a little different. With time-gated sources of loot we’re just expecting to be disappointed after waiting a week. Yeah it feels great when you have a good roll, but keep in mind that gear becomes obsolete every patch, and that WoW players like having something to work towards. This is where a lot of people feel the devs are out of touch.
I understand why Ion said that they can’t have the valor point gear upgrades like in MoP because of how ilvl inflates way too much between tiers as a result, but how does titanforging not contradict that point? Running a raid again hoping for Azerite to get residuum feels WAAAAAAY better than titanforging, and it pretty much serves the same purpose.
With all that said, I think there should also be a place for professions to fill that gap when it comes to lack of gear control in PvE. (see my last post). I know you guys don’t like taking suggestions, but a non-RNG suppliment to the reward system should have some way of being able to compete with a titanforged piece with non-ideal stats.
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Sometimes it feels like there’s too much to do, sometimes it feels like not enough; each can be tough on players, but I think these feelings often come from places other than what the developers put into the game.
I know I’m not the norm, but the most fun I’ve had in my favorite expansions came from when I felt “done” for the week with “chores.” When I could take the set that I’ve built (that I’d continue to improve the next week) out into the world—to push achievements, to do wPVP, to hit up BGs or push on Arena or RBG, or to dabble into that raid that I thought was out of my reach.
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I don’t think people getting geared up and then unsubbing is good for the game which is what all too often happened once people no longer had upgrades to get.
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You’re attempting to twist the argument being had. It has nothing to do with the amount of content available, it has everything to do with if the gamble gods don’t bless you with 425 + socket there’s always going to be another upgrade and it makes it depressing to obtain an item.
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Id wager that for that type of player its happening even quicker now. If you have outgeared the raid you are in because of the constant barrage of free upgrades wont you be more prone to quitting earlier than if you had to grind through weeks and weeks of that content?
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Whatever just look at the character profile online and you can see what they have done.
Surely there’s not enough stuff that I feel is either worth my time or I want to do. I don’t even have any interest in raiding anymore, and never really was interested in M+.
Upgrading items with valor was the superior system.
This one is purely RNG play-time padding.
They’re not even trying to be subtle about this stuff anymore…
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It really does. But of course from a casuals perspective, it doesn’t because you never had it until Titanforging became a thing and ruined the entire loot system.
I have. I don’t care about titan / warforge. When I was raiding, once I got the basics, that was it. Doing the same boss for a chance at a slightly higher ilevel isn’t fun to me and is just boring.
I would prefer real things to do honestly. Unlocking looks like we had with artifacts. Unlocking transmogs, titles, mounts. Something unique and interesting. Something I haven’t done a billion times in hopes of a rng proc at a higher version of what I already have.
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