…and add Challenge Modes back to the game with cosmetic rewards for people who enjoy that “speedrunning dungeon master” kind of gameplay.
We can have both M+ and CMs in the game at the same time! M+ can be a more relaxed experience where tanks don’t need to plan routes and people don’t have to chainpull like its WOTLK. You can still do that if you want but I think many people would prefer if that wasn’t the default.
For people who want that additional challenge you can have an entirely separate opt-in game mode with cool cosmetic rewards. You can even rotate which dungeons are available every season to spice things up, and add seasonal rewards.
Timed dungeons were never the core of the WOW experience, and it shouldn’t be the primary way that people engage with group content.
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Just mark your groups as completion and take all the time you want.
Why take away from people who enjoy the timer?
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op has challenge modes which are the timed modes, hes not taking anything away, just asking for options
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There is an option to check off “completion” for your key type while LFG. Literally everything both of you are asking for is currently in the game.
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completion does not give you points if you dont complete within a certain time, op is asking for different options
invalid post
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ooooooh, leggos and tier not being tied to skill isn’t enough, you want to be rewarded for being bad in the dungeon itself. got it 
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so you admit you randomly replied without reading the op
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So you admit you want rewarded for less effort?
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haha, now that you’re busted, you’re trolling. That doesn’t really do OP or your entitlement much justice, does it
This thread didn’t take long.
HARD no. If the devs take m+ away because of a small minority of people who can only pretend to be good at the game if every pack starts with CC’ing 3 out of the 4 mobs in it I would be done with WoW in a heartbeat.
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bro did you not read the op? op asked for options other than timed
you both are trolling
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Mythic+ without the timer is just free gear, lol.
It’s a time trial, that’s the whole point.
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The fact that you don’t get the point being made says a lot about you.
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im here to discuss the op, why are you here?
to discuss a rando’s post made by a rando dude who didnt bother to read?
lol
You’re either being baited or talking to a lost cause, neither needs to be given attention.
what if the rewards were different between the non timed and timed modes? i said i agree with op’s point about options
you gear andys have a one track mind “gear gear gear” and ignored the part where op mentioned cosmetic rewards
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This is a silly argument. Are raids “free gear” because they don’t have a timer?
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Or they can add three M+ modes:
Challenge: with affixes, no timer
Timed: with timer, no affixes
Timed Challenge: with affixes and timer
No drops but 10 completed Challenge and/or Timed or 5 completed Timed Challenge gives you a guaranteed piece of loot you can choose from five RNGed options from a loot table that changes/upgrades with each patch.
Any one who does over 5 completed Timed Challenges has a 10% change of a loot drop each time from the same loot table with no duplicates up to two pieces.
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Silly is not understanding if you don’t want timers you can run normal, heroic, and mythic 0. You want the benefit of the mythic plus without the added difficulty.
Without the timer, you would just run 3x tank, 2x healer comps and it would be a snorefest.