1-60 is ABYSMAL

Maybe they meant zone as in expansion zone? I can see it for WoD given that zone has a TON of bonus objectives that means you can level from 1-60 in that “zone”. Yet if they mean zone as in the western plaguelands for example, then no, they are 1000000% lying as I have level several characters recently for professions and it took more than one zone.

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So the disconnect between expansions, the 1-2 zone instant 60… I’m lying about this? Ok bud.

Legit doing the quests.

Who would know?

Lol, ok well, it’s 100% there for you. I didn’t say anything about taking away the speed run. I said keep TW for those that want it. Or you can spam dungeons and be to 60 in a day.

You’re delusional.

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Saying the story doesn’t make sense for new players isn’t hyperbolic or misleading. But saying that it does make any sort of sense is!

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Oh right, cuz I said 1-70.

1-60. It’s in the title. And sure my bad. TWO zones to get to 60.

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Saying you can reach level cap in one zone is. The story has never made much sense and I doubt the current story team has the chops to fix it.

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Why are we so quick to dismiss this claim? While maybe a little hyperbolic, we all know it’s not far from wrong. I just levelled an old alt from 25-50 for heirlooms and just did it in Highmountain, it wasn’t even hard. So it’s two zones.

The plot does matter. I get that the average player doesn’t require a deep dive into the lore of warcraft dating back to 1995, but maybe they need a bit of a rundown on the legion and why the stinky dragons are hanging out with us in Valdrakken. “Last week in review…”

The class training for new players to hop into now max level dungeons is going to result in some tough love, hope they’re prepared.

I just don’t see why people want to white wash this experience so quickly. Levelling is good? Nobody believes that. The problem is unsolvable?

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And you can’t make it 60 in one zone. And I know this because I’ve leveled enough toons to have empirical evidence it’s impossible even with a few dungeons and bg’s.

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Last I checked level 60 isn’t level cap.

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You 100% haven’t quested then recently. You can hit 60 in 2 zones. Why the hell would I lie about this?

Awful lot of childish projecting going on trying to defend this garbage leveling system.

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And. you. Can’t. One. Zone. 60.

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Ok. 2 zones. That’s so much better right?

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Challenge accepted.

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My new warlock is 35 in Mount Hyjal wearing full heirlooms and it took me almost three zones running every quest to get to 30 so I could go to Hyjal. And it will probably take all of Hyjal and part of another Cata zone to get to 60.

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I don’t know how you would be able to level so quickly but I do agree on the storyline part. It seems like end game content and getting keys done or getting the world first is more important rather than the why of it.

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Hey if you guys like power leveling then 100% keep the option. I’m talking about something to get new people caught up. And yeah, when they come from ESO and classic where apparently that stuff matters, WoW retail leveling is a steaming pile of crap.

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A group with new players wouldnt have Heirlooms. And would get a fraction of XP from kills, so they would complete the quests quicker but need more zones.

Also, humble brags on the forum should always be dismissed.

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And I think the long slog where you run out of quests halfway to level sixty in classic is a steaming pile. But that’s just my opinion. And while I can agree the low level questing could use a story rework I don’t think the leveling speed is a problem.

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I agree that leveling needs some overhaul for repeat characters to enjoy the story better during Chromie Time.

An abridged main story path through each expansion that takes you from 10-newest expansion and includes every zone from one expansion, solo versions of dungeons, and solo versions of important raid encounters is the dream.

But trying to make new characters level through 20 years of expansions, even in abridged form, is a fools errand.

New players begin on Exile’s Reach, then they go to Battle for Azeroth, then Dragonflight. It’s a good starting point.

Will you understand all 20 years of what happened after leveling one character? Absolutely not. Even if you saw every expansion, there’s 3 RTS games of lore and dozens of books omitted. You can’t get the whole story just playing one character in World of Warcraft.

Exploring the older storylines should be left for players to do in Chromie Time while leveling alts. It’s not a new player experience.

Honestly, it sounds like you did your friends a disservice by jumping out of Kul Tiras/Zandalari and going to the old world instead.

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Did I mention heirlooms? Do you not know that heirlooms don’t give xp boosts anymore btw?

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you can look up a quick guide of the best zones to level in and then go from 1-60 in around 4 -5 hours (less, if you’re a real speed leveler). Even if you just pick the zones from the expac you like you are going to hit 60 somewhere in the 2nd zone.

I started leveling some new characters in the last few weeks and was shocked at how much quicker it is now, you sneeze, you get a level.

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