You shouldn’t get 0 conquest for losing BGs.
Time is valuable, wasting your time when you don’t need honor at all isn’t good.
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uh…if you get conquest for a loss then people(bots) will afk not only near the end, but at the start.
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You still get more for winning, people will try to win.
Instead of afking and you getting nothing, they afk and you get SOME conquest, so you don’t feel like you just wasted your time.
Both have issues, one benefits everyone no matter what(conquest even if you lose).
Blizzard, as usual, picked the worst of the two that makes you feel like you just wasted your time and makes you feel terrible.
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conquest is nonexistent for wins(need 59 wins for a chest piece). you need to play shuffle if you want conquest. randoms are for honor only.
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I see people AFK regardless. But yea wow players are lazy and would AFK more. This is why we can’t have nice things in wow.
Like in FFXIV I keep the PVP daily as my tombstone (valor point) weekly farm. It’s easy 40 stones win or loss.
I would love conquest for loss in BGs and arena. The problem is Wow community is full of the worst types of gamers. They abuse any system they can. I think it’s why blizzard funnels players in a certain direction. Lol
People do this regardless.
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Unpopular opinion but no, if you lose, you should not get any conquest. Don’t reward the losers, they already are rewarded with honor.
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No, they aren’t, troll.
Post on your RSS main at least.
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Not sure why people say you can AFK in this game, it’s very hard, I received a 2 week ban for it and that was only for 2 games, if you get multiple reports, it’s over for you. Giving people a 1/3 of a normal win in conquest for a loss isn’t that bad, it’s honestly better than people mass leaving which is what happens if people lose initial team fights in certain BGs. Given Blizzard’s inability to do proper matchmaking, seems like a fair trade.
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it is a 0 for losing. just leave when it is no good. people do that recently. it been like this always 100%. shame. sad.
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do the math.
A LOT of people don’t want to do rated. So they get conquest from randoms. It’s slow, but it’s something.
BTW i don’t agree with conquest for a loss. But conquest for backfilling and staying 'til the end, sure.
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yeah it very slow. if you do not like thier team, go away. you don’t have to play if you want to. they can’t make us. it is our own decision. it’s either way.
I feel like the quests to get a certain amount of honor in a particular type of BG is worth looking into. Perhaps making them all available each week? The once per season chunks of conquest in epic BGs are really fun and satisfying to do, perhaps making them a weekly?
Once conquest is uncapped, I feel like it should be exactly that… uncapped.
I say this as a person who mostly does RSS for easy conquest but truth be told, I would rather be doing randoms and not deal with competitive unpleasantness. It just feels like a waste of time and it doesn’t have to be, I could go into randoms and not worry about the outcome… just for fun because it is fun, just not when you feel like you’re wasting your time.
Compare PvP rewards to PvE, you have one where your time investment is considered and the first is just about victory. I think this is worth looking into, RSS proved that people would rather not get into too much hassle for PvP… it may be time to rethink the reward structures for the longevity of the game before it is too late.
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That’s their problem.
Gotta play the game if you want the rewards.
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Winning 1 epic and 1 random battleground each day is 180 conquest. Plus then you have the weekly pvp quests and supply crates plus you can upgrade drakebreaker gear to get you by.
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the dailies are the only randoms worth doing if you want conq. even those are really low.
1 shuffle non daily is about the same as the epic + random daily combined.
spamming randoms for conq is HORRENDOUS. randoms are for honor or fun only.
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And I can do one epic + one random in the time it takes for a solo shuffle queue to pop, and I find battlegrounds a lot more fun than arena. But yes spamming them is terrible for conquest.
If they removed conquest from RSS it’d die overnight, same with warmode rewards. Is it healthy that we have a system where you have to be ratings fodder in these despised modes in order to not be fodder in entry level content? Predatory rewards, it’s what will kill pvp. Who wants to be the bottom half in those systems?
I ran a few dungeons for the first time since Legion, scripted encounters are awful and gimmicky but at least there’s progression. Dungeons are really easy and I get rewarded more than I would in a week of random BGs.
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Seems like you have a really strong incentive to win.
If you can’t win, then it looks like you have an even stronger incentive to get better.
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