I never said it was a âgoodâ indication in the first place, just that itâs even less reliable because of RNG.
It depends on what you define as âdifficult.â Everyone has different skill levels, and while 10-15 keys may be easily doable at the 390-400 range for skilled players, others struggle at the same item level in the 7-9 range.
It looks as though you have no IO score at all, which is worse than showing that youâve at least attempted content.
The armory canât be hidden, no. You can only hide your profile on the forums which makes it more difficult to find someoneâs armory, but if you know a playerâs armory URL you can still find them.
Yes it does. It keeps track of your seasonal best. It prefers in time over failed, which means if you have done a lower in time key and failed a higher one of the same dungeon, it will display the lower in time key instead. However, Raider.io will pull all the data available and display all of your keys done regardless of in time or failed.
That may be the case but you have zero chance of being invited to a PUG +10 at 390 item level. Zero. So Iâm not sure why it matters much that itâs relatively easy to get to that level.
By far the fastest and easiest way to gear up in this game is M+. The stories of players getting up to 400 with nothing but world quests and warfronts are just that - stories. It doesnât happen in reality. Itâs just a lie told by people who really hate other people getting gear even when it doesnât affect them at all.
Itâs not raider IO that ruined the game, itâs players like you who only play 2-3 hours a week and get really good loot rained down on you from all the catch up mechanics.
Then cry that no one will invite them to their plus 10 because because the highest they have done is a +3
If you want the invites, then put in the time and effort that the higher IO players do
I am like 1299, I am grinding now in 13s and 14s to get my IO up. I also recognize I have no place in 16s and 18s.
Oh I agree for the most part, but if people want to shoot themself in the foot then we should let them so that they will stop complaining. Itâs like WM. You donât like it? Go hide your io score and youâll be free of whatever issues you have with it is my philosophy at this point.
Thank you for confirming that it hides it in game as well though.
During the Mythic week I ran baby mythics on all 9 of my current 120s. I started my own groups for each of them since I tank/heal on most and I (greedily, mind you) went for the 390+ people
who signed up.
There were multiple 400s who couldnât break 10k DPS on large trash pulls.
For the lols, I decided to try 370-390 people who had decent IO scores either on that character or on their mains/alts. Those people, despite being a lower item level, performed better than most of the 390-400 people I invited in my previous runs.
Item level means nothing when you can get free 400 pieces of loot from AFKing in a Warfront, a chance at 400 loot from a simple, not even challenging world boss, and Titanforging exists (my alts have gotten 415 Titanforges from something as simple as the Timewalking cache). There needs to be a way to qualify people, because right now item level doesnât indicate ability or skill from my experience in just baby Mythics.
Hiding your .io score wonât solve the issue of not getting invited to PUGs. The only way to fix that is 1. roll a more desirable class 2. raise your .io score.
My 1215 .io hunter still canât get invited to +10s so itâs not only .io that is the issue really, a lot of it is simply class balance. If I had shroud I could get into those same runs with 600 .io.
The character I am posing on is 399, and did most of her keys sub 395; One of my highest timed keys (2 months ago I gave this toon up) was a 13 shrine, at 393 item level, which was timed with nearly 3 minutes to spare.
Feel free to dig into it; check my IO out on this character. Cicera-ZulâJin. Keys can be completed at 390 in the 10-13 range, in the timer.
Nobodyâs saying otherwise, but you arenât getting invited to those keys pugging on a 390 ilvl DPS. You and Bearfu are both tanks, itâs much easier to get invites as a tank regardless of .io and ilvl.
Yeah, I donât do a lot of dungeons because I prefer raiding, and this was the first time I wanted to try pushing my alts into dungeons. I also wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt that IO isnât the end all be all.
Sadly, not impressed with item level as a metric. I know my IO score is bad, but I run M+ with a guild group.
Well, pugging M+ isnât even intended. Itâs aimed at teams and guilds, especially as you go farther up.
Hiding the score wonât help with joining most pugs at +10, no, but that doesnât mean io is the problem. We all have access to our own keys each week so my advice is if you donât have a guild or team is to do your 10, next week push your 9 and do the 10, repeat as necessary.
Not necessarily. You can easily have anywhere from 20-50 DPS attempting to squeeze into two or three slots depending on the key level and dungeon. A rogue with 600 IO isnât going to be invited over another rogue with a higher IO score for the same dungeon.
Yes, the class youâre playing helps, and so does your score, but DPS are a dime a dozen and you can only slot three into your M+ group. Thereâs also the small matter of what the group leaderâs looking for. If thereâs only one DPS slot left, maybe theyâre looking for a class with lust (e.g. hunter) because they already have a rogue. Maybe theyâre looking for a druid or DK because they have a lust and a rogue, but not a battle rez. Maybe theyâve got all three, and theyâre looking for AoE burst in the form of say a demon hunter.