★ PSA: Void Elf Paladins are justified in the Lore ★

Nah they do. In the ceremony where Arthas became a paladin, the Light filled his body. Tirion was temporarily stripped of the Light because it was pulled from him by his comrades, though that didn’t work.

Seal abilities basically fill a paladin’s body, empowering them in different ways. And this Holy power within them is strengthened by faith and good works, per the tome of divinity.

So they manifest their powers inside their bodies. Not as strong or permanent as Lightforged, but even though ‘seals’ are temporary, they fill the body. If that body is saturated with Void, that wouldn’t be possible.

Edit: Im an alt-oholic and proud of it!

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External Power, done & done, you’re a Druid go to sleep.

No one but

God

can tell me that my Paladin wasn’t one of Umbric’s followers or a High Elf Pally before trying to augment my powers like a Disc priest.

Trying to augment my pally powers using the Void is prob one of the most Blood Elfiest moves in the book bro

Also, Twilight Hammer Paladins exist ingame already.

Lore is Lore

It’s about drive it’s about power we stay hungry we devour

-William Shakespeare

Imagine if they gave us void elf paladins.

Are some Horde players going to throw tantrums and quit? If they do then that’s their problem.

Imagine getting upset over ANY of this.

Horde Players would go Alliance, Blizz gets that cash m0ney $$$

It’s about drive it’s about power we stay hungry we devour

-William Shakespeare

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If a paladin was just a priest with a weapon, then they wouldn’t have said Anduin was still a Priest after he picked up a sword. I get that subtleties are difficult for some people to grasp, but there is a distinction.

As for those Twilight Vindicators, correct me if im wrong but aren’t they still mortal? Paladins are defined by zealous faith. They’re pragmatic enough to take advantage of the Light and worship the Old Gods with enough fervour that this is possible. Unless they’re infused with Void like the Void Elves are, there is no barrier stopping them save the difficulty of being able to do this.

But yeah, imagine people getting upset by this. When you’re so keen on void elf paladins (or you just enjoy trolling) you’ve spent so much of your time posting on this forum. Shocking.

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This. Night elf paladins are important and do have at least some lore to support them.

Picking up a sword =/= having martial training bro, Anduin is a Priest cuz he was never able to grasp close quarter combat, something his father tried real hard to enforce into em but faiiled to do so.

Anduin is a bookworm, this is why he’s a priest.

I can’t just go pick up a scalpel IRL and call myself a surgeon

It’s about drive it’s about power we stay hungry we devour

-William Shakespeare

I want a void elf paladin tonight.

That’s ok. I don’t :wink:

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surprise counter argument:
none of the wayfarers actually survived
it doesn’t state they did
so as far as I’m concerned, all they did was attempt it and they all promptly succumbed to the void

I understand for many, it probably began that way. But it quickly devolved into removing Blood Elf identity and stuff.

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I didn’t know zombies could talk.

Agreed. Uniqueness is important. Another reason why paladins shouldn’t be given to Void Elves but to Night Elves instead.

Uniqueness is preserved for all blood and void elves though so long as they keep the Void proc (which, tbh, actually looks better on normal skin because it turning purple and then receding back is more obvious and pree cool).

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I’m confused. I thought the community wanted to remove all class/race restrictions? Kind of weird people are now asking for restrictions… ?

Man, I remember people asking for Forsaken paladins on and off through the years especially back when I mained one, and while people disagreed, they didn’t make it their hobby to sit around and complain about rule of cool stuff potentially happening.

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All races all classes is the easy thing to do. And sure, many races offer the prospect of more classes over time. Night Elf Paladin for example. But some restrictions are important because they emphasise the uniqueness of the race’s culture and the class’s culture as well.

Anyone can be a warrior, hunter, rogue (even those races that don’t have those options right now). Any race with a religion can also have priests. But druids, shamans, paladins, monks - they’re more of a way of life than a fighting discipline. For a race to have enough of these classes to justify opening them up to players, there has to be a reason. Often, each race has a unique reason for its class choices that makes the combination even more meaningful to play. Otherwise, it cheapens both the class and the race.

After the cosmology was introduced, another barrier was also placed. Lightforged cannot be warlocks, Void Elves cannot be paladins. Their cosmic alignment combined with the reasons that make anyone join these allied races (which are more like factions than races) would prevent them from making such a choice, even if they could.

Basically, I believe that almost anyone who actually enjoys the WORLD as much as the WARCRAFT would appreciate that some restrictions for some races is a good thing (while wanting others that can be lifted to improve the story to be lifted). And I believe most players feel the same way.

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New lore isn’t a retcon of the lore. If they could explain it with new lore that shows 2 opposing magical forces can co-exist, then it wouldn’t be a problem. Current lore supports a potential light-void compatibility if I’m not mistaken in regards to priests who in the lore balance the 2. But then we currently have lore where, only directly, essence of void cannot exist with pure essence of light. To call a shadow priest an essence of void in the same way a Void Elf is the pure essence of void isn’t fair. Shadow priests and warlocks aren’t banned from Quel’Thalas. Void Elves are. There could be lore that says only pure forms can’t, but minor forms can which could justify the existence of a future Void Elf Paladin while staying true to lore and consistency. Again, to reiterate, that new lore is not retconning lore. Retconning lore is literally changing established facts.

In my situation, no established fact is gone but only people’s headcanon, which is that pure and minor forms of magic are of no factors upon each other. We don’t know. We DO NOT have enough lore in Warcraft to understand this concept I suggest, but Blizzard could flesh that out later.

But forget new lore, you’re entirely right.

I actually don’t care one way or the other with restrictions or no restrictions, but when it comes to restrictions do we only draw the line at races with magical restrictions or do we force a general culture on the races still which would prevent the majority of Blood Elves from being Shamans and Druids, and the majority of Stormwind Humans from being Druids as well?

Sharing the model isn’t the problem though. Asking to visit the homelands is somewhat a problem from the faction-perspective but a still a justified lore-reason, as other characters do it as well. But it will never come to the game.

Looking back it’s a give and take-situation. I’m okay with the trade because Night Elves simply don’t look good enough to justify them as an interesting race. The male model is so whack around the shoulders, they look not good.

I never knew this. This would also explain why everyone has a Paladin…

He can’t afford doing this anymore. If the leaks are through, then Danuser and he are really disliked within the company. Stirring some drama during these critical times will just make it harder for him.

Canonically speaking, you’re likely only using the Shadow-spec. But it can heal people, so…

Will happen with Light-forged Forsaken though. Can’t see them getting this any time soon.

They already have but power to you and everything what pushes the Alliance in not being a clown faction. You guys actually deserve to brought up to an even fanservice level with the Horde.

Yeah, I can see this actually happening.

I agree. What I wanted was the skin tones and hair colours to be a bit more of a different shade than what the Blood Elves have, but they had to be exact copy paste.

And all this argument of people wanting Void Elf Paladins to complete the High Elf Fantasy, I think this is false, because you don’t need to be a Paladin to play the High Elf Fantasy, considering the vast majority of Alliance High Elves are either Hunters or Mages, and on top of that, oh, I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this bit, but Paladins are boring to play. Though this bit is my opinion, but also, Shadow and Light, have negative effects to each other.

As for Silvermoon, I want Silvermoon to be kept to the Blood Elves on the Horde, and also I would like to see Silvermoon Updated. And originally with the original High Elf request, a vast majority of the High Elf community wanted the models to be slightly different to where they look different to the Blood Elf counterparts, but doesn’t break the lore to where it is like a transformation or something, which actually, I wish Blizzard would look at. Even giving us different animations.

And that’s absolutely fine. It’s the same race, after all. Nobody bothers about the Pandaren and how they are an exact 1:1 copy on each side but the Blood Elves have to be a big exception? No. We’re past this by now. This is the least those developers could do for all the mess they left behind, letting people clash with each other about stupid skin- and hair colors.